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Science Fiction » alt.startrek » How Jim Could Be Rescued
| How Jim Could Be Rescued [message #267840] |
Fr, 19 Mai 2006 02:51 |
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It looks like a pretty thin chance, but as a contribution to the effort
to "Bring Back Kirk" -- here is one possible scenario:
1. After Guinan telles Chekov that his friend Jim is still alive in the
Nexus, a scientific study is mounted that results (after 15 years) in
transporter attempts through the temporal anomoly.
2. One of several people successfully beamed out is, apparently, James
T. Kirk.
3. However, as we know this to be impossible, it turns out to be his
mirror double -- who escapes.
4. This mirror-person knows so much about the inner workings of the
Federation that he nearly overthrows the Federation President; joining
forces with Romulus, and causing the Tomed Incident in the process.
5. After being thwarted by forces led by Spock, he flees to some
remote and dangerous world to hide out -- where he is nearly devoured
by one of the giant plants there, before being rescued by the original
crewmates of his gone-forever double.
6. He gets a mind meld, rehabilitating him and turning him "somewhat"
into Jim Kirk -- just enough to qualify as a returned friend.
7. Since he can never be transported safely back to the mirror
universe, he then lives out his life -- without being found or
recaptured by the Federation.
As far as I know, this is the only semi-logical plot which could
actually "Bring Back Kirk".
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| Re: How Jim Could Be Rescued [message #267843 ] |
Fr, 19 Mai 2006 07:14 |
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Well, we all know Kirk could not have died on Veridian III because he
was not alone! So, reconciling that fact with what was seen and heard
on-screen, I've got a theory: Kirk is not, in fact, in Kirk's grave at
all.
An Enterprise rescue party found the captains in time. Picard kept
them from seeing Kirk, and asked for a medical kit and then sent the
shuttle back to the Enterprise for whatever madeup reason he gave them.
Kirk was revived, but decided to fake his death because he didn't want
to rejoin the 24th century as an icon past his expiration date. Or,
hell, just so he could show up on Romulus and make Spock piss himself.
(It may or may not be the Kirk thing to do, but from what I can tell,
Shatner would DEFINITELY do that to Nimoy!) The "grave" was set up to
convince the Enterprise rescue members--told by Picard to leave and
come back, no questions asked--that his efforts reviving Kirk had
failed.
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| Re: How Jim Could Be Rescued [message #267845 ] |
Fr, 19 Mai 2006 08:56 |
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Interesting idea for a fanfic. Write it up! :)
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| Re: How Jim Could Be Rescued [message #267846 ] |
Fr, 19 Mai 2006 09:02 |
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Wouldn't it be funny if the Kirk that came back with Picard was really
just a Nexus phantasm, and Picard never really met the real Kirk at all?
Picard was in the Nexus... he saw what he wanted to see. He wanted to
see Kirk so badly that "Kirk" apparently materialized. But it was not
the real Kirk, it was the Kirk of Picard's fantasies.
If it had been the real Kirk,Spock would have been involved in the
story. The absence of Spock clinically proves that the real Kirk was
never present.
;)
What this means is that Jim Kirk doesn't have to be rescued, because he
is still safe and untouched in the Nexus.
:)
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| Re: How Jim Could Be Rescued [message #267853 ] |
Fr, 19 Mai 2006 18:36 |
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....or you can go the route of some of the Trek novels and have a Kirk clone.
<kevin.kirby [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147999884.267554.135530 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> It looks like a pretty thin chance, but as a contribution to the effort
> to "Bring Back Kirk" -- here is one possible scenario:
>
> 1. After Guinan telles Chekov that his friend Jim is still alive in the
> Nexus, a scientific study is mounted that results (after 15 years) in
> transporter attempts through the temporal anomoly.
>
> 2. One of several people successfully beamed out is, apparently, James
> T. Kirk.
>
> 3. However, as we know this to be impossible, it turns out to be his
> mirror double -- who escapes.
>
> 4. This mirror-person knows so much about the inner workings of the
> Federation that he nearly overthrows the Federation President; joining
> forces with Romulus, and causing the Tomed Incident in the process.
>
> 5. After being thwarted by forces led by Spock, he flees to some
> remote and dangerous world to hide out -- where he is nearly devoured
> by one of the giant plants there, before being rescued by the original
> crewmates of his gone-forever double.
>
> 6. He gets a mind meld, rehabilitating him and turning him "somewhat"
> into Jim Kirk -- just enough to qualify as a returned friend.
>
> 7. Since he can never be transported safely back to the mirror
> universe, he then lives out his life -- without being found or
> recaptured by the Federation.
>
>
> As far as I know, this is the only semi-logical plot which could
> actually "Bring Back Kirk".
>
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| Re: How Jim Could Be Rescued [message #267859 ] |
Fr, 19 Mai 2006 20:39 |
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This is really kinda good!
<kevin.kirby [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147999884.267554.135530 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> It looks like a pretty thin chance, but as a contribution to the effort
> to "Bring Back Kirk" -- here is one possible scenario:
>
> 1. After Guinan telles Chekov that his friend Jim is still alive in the
> Nexus, a scientific study is mounted that results (after 15 years) in
> transporter attempts through the temporal anomoly.
>
> 2. One of several people successfully beamed out is, apparently, James
> T. Kirk.
>
> 3. However, as we know this to be impossible, it turns out to be his
> mirror double -- who escapes.
>
> 4. This mirror-person knows so much about the inner workings of the
> Federation that he nearly overthrows the Federation President; joining
> forces with Romulus, and causing the Tomed Incident in the process.
>
> 5. After being thwarted by forces led by Spock, he flees to some
> remote and dangerous world to hide out -- where he is nearly devoured
> by one of the giant plants there, before being rescued by the original
> crewmates of his gone-forever double.
>
> 6. He gets a mind meld, rehabilitating him and turning him "somewhat"
> into Jim Kirk -- just enough to qualify as a returned friend.
>
> 7. Since he can never be transported safely back to the mirror
> universe, he then lives out his life -- without being found or
> recaptured by the Federation.
>
>
> As far as I know, this is the only semi-logical plot which could
> actually "Bring Back Kirk".
>
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| Re: How Jim Could Be Rescued [message #267981 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 04:02 |
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Hi have you read the novels by William Shattner? those are pretty good to.
Seon
<kevin.kirby [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147999884.267554.135530 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> It looks like a pretty thin chance, but as a contribution to the effort
> to "Bring Back Kirk" -- here is one possible scenario:
>
> 1. After Guinan telles Chekov that his friend Jim is still alive in the
> Nexus, a scientific study is mounted that results (after 15 years) in
> transporter attempts through the temporal anomoly.
>
> 2. One of several people successfully beamed out is, apparently, James
> T. Kirk.
>
> 3. However, as we know this to be impossible, it turns out to be his
> mirror double -- who escapes.
>
> 4. This mirror-person knows so much about the inner workings of the
> Federation that he nearly overthrows the Federation President; joining
> forces with Romulus, and causing the Tomed Incident in the process.
>
> 5. After being thwarted by forces led by Spock, he flees to some
> remote and dangerous world to hide out -- where he is nearly devoured
> by one of the giant plants there, before being rescued by the original
> crewmates of his gone-forever double.
>
> 6. He gets a mind meld, rehabilitating him and turning him "somewhat"
> into Jim Kirk -- just enough to qualify as a returned friend.
>
> 7. Since he can never be transported safely back to the mirror
> universe, he then lives out his life -- without being found or
> recaptured by the Federation.
>
>
> As far as I know, this is the only semi-logical plot which could
> actually "Bring Back Kirk".
>
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| Re: How Jim Could Be Rescued [message #267985 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 02:14 |
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<minlshaw [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148015664.210669.296770 [at] g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Well, we all know Kirk could not have died on Veridian III because he
> was not alone! So, reconciling that fact with what was seen and heard
> on-screen, I've got a theory: Kirk is not, in fact, in Kirk's grave at
> all.
>
We all know that Kirk didn't and couldn't have died there since in Star
Trek:TNG they rescued Scotty and he thought Kirk was still alived.
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| Re: How Jim Could Be Rescued [message #279201 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 16:03 |
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"seon ferguson" <seon [at] iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:4477b31c$0$3664$5a62ac22 [at] per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Hi have you read the novels by William Shattner? those are pretty good to.
>
> Seon
>
Yeah, "The Return" was great, imho.
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