| ST eleven: the latest [message #249044] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 01:39 |
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Abrams Says Star Trek Report Inaccurate
April 25, 2006
Empire Online caught up with Mission: Impossible III director J.J.
Abrams who said that Friday's report that he will produce and direct the
11th Star Trek feature is not entirely accurate.
"The whole thing was reported entirely without our cooperation," Abrams
said. "People learned that I was producing a 'Star Trek' film, that I
had an option to direct it, they hear rumors of what the thing was going
to be and ran with a story that is not entirely accurate."
Variety said the film will center on the early days of seminal "Trek"
characters James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock, including their first meeting at
Starfleet Academy and first outer space mission.
But the Lost and Alias creator said that "We've made a pact not to
discuss any specifics." Abrams is a big fan of the Original Series,
however, so don't be surprised if his film does take place around the
era of Kirk and Co. "Those characters are so spectacular. I just think
that... you know, they could live again."
http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14241
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249045 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 01:41 |
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ToolPackinMama wrote:
> http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14241
Wow. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have someone who was a FAN of the
original series do the movie?
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249046 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 04:24 |
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"ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
news:YpGdnVnUnK4rLtPZnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d [at] comcast.com...
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
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> > http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14241
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> Wow. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have someone who was a FAN of the
> original series do the movie?
In a word, FUCK YEAH!
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249047 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 02:41 |
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"ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
news:YpGdnVnUnK4rLtPZnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d [at] comcast.com...
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
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> > http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14241
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> Wow. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have someone who was a FAN of the
> original series do the movie?
That won't help it not suck. Fans have made ST movies before that sucked
hard.
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249048 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 02:50 |
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CaptainPike wrote:
>>Wow. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have someone who was a FAN of the
>>original series do the movie?
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> In a word, FUCK YEAH!
::high five!::
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249049 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 02:51 |
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In article <444EB349.9060509 [at] lauragoodwin.org>, ToolPackinMama
<laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
> Abrams Says Star Trek Report Inaccurate
> April 25, 2006
>
> Empire Online caught up with Mission: Impossible III director J.J.
> Abrams who said that Friday's report that he will produce and direct the
> 11th Star Trek feature is not entirely accurate.
>
> "The whole thing was reported entirely without our cooperation," Abrams
> said. "People learned that I was producing a 'Star Trek' film, that I
> had an option to direct it, they hear rumors of what the thing was going
> to be and ran with a story that is not entirely accurate."
>
> Variety said the film will center on the early days of seminal "Trek"
> characters James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock, including their first meeting at
> Starfleet Academy and first outer space mission.
>
> But the Lost and Alias creator said that "We've made a pact not to
> discuss any specifics." Abrams is a big fan of the Original Series,
> however, so don't be surprised if his film does take place around the
> era of Kirk and Co. "Those characters are so spectacular. I just think
> that... you know, they could live again."
>
> http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14241
Yep, I was just about to post that.
Talk about trying to shut the stable door after the horse has long
gone, died of natural causes, been made into glue that has dried and
gone brittle.
Shock, horror! Reporters not being accurate!? Surely not. :-\
We all know the first thing they learn in 'Reporter School' is "report
now, be first, worry about facts later". (The second thing is "how to
fake your expenses".)
Conspiracy theorists will say that Abrams / Paramount purposely
"leaked" that story idea to see how well it flies with fan opinions.
There's been a bit of complaint from many people, so now they're trying
to cover their ... err, backs by saying "that wasn't our idea". That
last quote pretty much proves that they are at least thinking along
those story lines.
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249050 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 02:53 |
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Anybody wrote:
> Conspiracy theorists will say that Abrams / Paramount purposely
> "leaked" that story idea to see how well it flies with fan opinions.
> There's been a bit of complaint from many people, so now they're trying
> to cover their ... err, backs
Who (that matters) would seriously be against that idea?
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249051 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 02:55 |
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ToolPackinMama wrote:
> Anybody wrote:
>
>> Conspiracy theorists will say that Abrams / Paramount purposely
>> "leaked" that story idea to see how well it flies with fan opinions.
>> There's been a bit of complaint from many people, so now they're trying
>> to cover their ... err, backs
>
>
> Who (that matters) would seriously be against that idea?
On second thought...
Since when have TPTB showed any interest in what fans think? Do any of
you seriously believe that what fans think matters to those bozos?
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249052 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 03:29 |
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249053 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 03:45 |
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ToolPackinMama wrote:
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>> Anybody wrote:
>>
>>> Conspiracy theorists will say that Abrams / Paramount purposely
>>> "leaked" that story idea to see how well it flies with fan opinions.
>>> There's been a bit of complaint from many people, so now they're
>>> trying to cover their ... err, backs
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>>
>> Who (that matters) would seriously be against that idea?
>
> On second thought...
>
> Since when have TPTB showed any interest in what fans think? Do any
> of you seriously believe that what fans think matters to those bozos?
They should do after the Enterprise and Nemesis debacles.
Ian
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249054 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 04:10 |
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I'm glad to hear he's a fan. TOS can't be ruined and hopefully this guy
will know what he's doing.
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249055 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 04:18 |
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Jaxtraw wrote:
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>Since when have TPTB showed any interest in what fans think? Do any
>>of you seriously believe that what fans think matters to those bozos?
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>
> They should do after the Enterprise and Nemesis debacles.
No argument, but they should have all along, yes?
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249056 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 04:18 |
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allemannster [at] gmail.com wrote:
> I'm glad to hear he's a fan. TOS can't be ruined and hopefully this guy
> will know what he's doing.
That's my prayer as well.
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249060 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 06:10 |
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:51:36 +1200, Anybody wrote:
> Conspiracy theorists will say that Abrams / Paramount purposely
> "leaked" that story idea to see how well it flies with fan opinions.
Oh, sure. They're even reading alt.startek and using it as a sounding
board. LOL... as if.
--
Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz
Promote someone else.
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249061 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 06:11 |
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Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:51:36 +1200, Anybody wrote:
>
>
>>Conspiracy theorists will say that Abrams / Paramount purposely
>>"leaked" that story idea to see how well it flies with fan opinions.
>
>
> Oh, sure. They're even reading alt.startek and using it as a sounding
> board. LOL... as if.
If only.
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249062 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 06:35 |
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In article <1146017411.104992.125170 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"allemannster [at] gmail.com" <allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm glad to hear he's a fan. TOS can't be ruined and hopefully this guy
> will know what he's doing.
Not necessarily. Many of the "remakes" / update movies coming out of
Hollyweird over the last few years have been done by SUPPOSED fans of
the original, and yet they still made them into horrible messes bearing
little resemblance to the original. :-(
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249064 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 06:37 |
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In article <f5bhm7nte2an.dlg [at] starfist.thorsfinni>, "Lance Corporal
\"Hammer\" Schultz" <starfist.at.gmail.dot.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:51:36 +1200, Anybody wrote:
>
> > Conspiracy theorists will say that Abrams / Paramount purposely
> > "leaked" that story idea to see how well it flies with fan opinions.
>
> Oh, sure. They're even reading alt.startek and using it as a sounding
> board. LOL... as if.
The news spread to LOTS of places, not just here, and not just Star
Trek fan messageboards for that matter. :-)
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249065 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 07:01 |
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ToolPackinMama wrote:
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
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>> http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14241
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> Wow. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have someone who was a FAN of the
> original series do the movie?
Couldn't hurt.
In the past, Abrams has said that his favorite show as a kid, the show
that influenced him the most, was The Twilight Zone.
And Abrams' TV shows do tend toward the quirky and offbeat; "Lost"
obviously owes a lot to "Twilight Zone." Good or bad, I think ST 11
might turn out to be the most unusual Star Trek movie of all.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email: sdlitvin [at] earthlinkNOSPAM.net
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249066 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 08:14 |
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In article <T8D3g.9271$sq5.7462 [at] newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven L." <sdlitvin [at] earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
> > ToolPackinMama wrote:
> >
> >> http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14241
> >
> > Wow. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have someone who was a FAN of the
> > original series do the movie?
>
> Couldn't hurt.
>
> In the past, Abrams has said that his favorite show as a kid, the show
> that influenced him the most, was The Twilight Zone.
>
> And Abrams' TV shows do tend toward the quirky and offbeat; "Lost"
> obviously owes a lot to "Twilight Zone." Good or bad, I think ST 11
> might turn out to be the most unusual Star Trek movie of all.
Even more "unusual" than that 'Save the Whales' rubbish?? Oh dear,
we're in real trouble now. :-(
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249077 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 19:18 |
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:11:41 -0400, ToolPackinMama wrote:
> Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:51:36 +1200, Anybody wrote:
>>
>>>Conspiracy theorists will say that Abrams / Paramount purposely
>>>"leaked" that story idea to see how well it flies with fan opinions.
>>
>> Oh, sure. They're even reading alt.startek and using it as a sounding
>> board. LOL... as if.
>
> If only.
Yeah, if only they read your posts, then we'd finally get (drum role
please...)
Brokeback Mt. Selea.
I'll pass, thanks.
--
Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz
Promote someone else.
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249082 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 22:38 |
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> Wow. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have someone who was a FAN of the
> original series do the movie?
Paramount, and most movie studios, want someone who will bring in the
largest possible merchandise buying audience. A fan would want a movie
the fans enjoy. Two vastly different directions.
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249083 ] |
Mi, 26 April 2006 22:59 |
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After over a quarter of a century of watching Trek movies, I'm reminded of
my favorite Rule of Aquisition: Hear all, believe nothing. We're reportedly
2 years away from the movie coming out (provided it does), so take any
rumors of a specific plot with a grain of salt at this point. Trek movies
are notorious for being constantly revised. The Big Bads in ST III were
supposed to be Romulan at one point, as was Dr. Soran in Generations.
Berman's out of the mix, it'll be fine.
"ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
news:444EB349.9060509 [at] lauragoodwin.org...
> Abrams Says Star Trek Report Inaccurate
> April 25, 2006
>
>
> Empire Online caught up with Mission: Impossible III director J.J.
> Abrams who said that Friday's report that he will produce and direct the
> 11th Star Trek feature is not entirely accurate.
>
> "The whole thing was reported entirely without our cooperation," Abrams
> said. "People learned that I was producing a 'Star Trek' film, that I
> had an option to direct it, they hear rumors of what the thing was going
> to be and ran with a story that is not entirely accurate."
>
> Variety said the film will center on the early days of seminal "Trek"
> characters James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock, including their first meeting at
> Starfleet Academy and first outer space mission.
>
> But the Lost and Alias creator said that "We've made a pact not to
> discuss any specifics." Abrams is a big fan of the Original Series,
> however, so don't be surprised if his film does take place around the
> era of Kirk and Co. "Those characters are so spectacular. I just think
> that... you know, they could live again."
>
> http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14241
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249088 ] |
Do, 27 April 2006 11:20 |
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:41:45 -0400, ToolPackinMama wrote:
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
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>> http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14241
>
> Wow. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have someone who was a FAN of the
> original series do the movie?
I felt the same way when Bryan Singer took over the Superman project.
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249104 ] |
Fr, 28 April 2006 06:32 |
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in article 5ex6h58brgcz.1gwlv3m9jcfnf$.dlg [at] 40tude.net, Yuk Foo at
hard [at] work.not wrote on 4/27/06 2:20 AM:
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:41:45 -0400, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>
>> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>
>>> http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14241
>>
>> Wow. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have someone who was a FAN of the
>> original series do the movie?
>
> I felt the same way when Bryan Singer took over the Superman project.
that it was going to be horrid beyond belief?
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #249115 ] |
Sa, 29 April 2006 01:24 |
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>> Wow. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have someone who was a FAN of the
>> original series do the movie?
> I felt the same way when Bryan Singer took over the Superman project.
<<that it was going to be horrid beyond belief? >>
Of course this idiot hasn't seen the film but he just KNOWS it's gonna
be bad. Singer is a fine director, the 2 X-men's were entertaining at
the very least. Now, X-men 3, with hack Brett Ratner at the helm, could
be a cause for concern.
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #263091 ] |
Mo, 08 Mai 2006 19:26 |
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:32:07 -0700, ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
> in article 5ex6h58brgcz.1gwlv3m9jcfnf$.dlg [at] 40tude.net, Yuk Foo at
> hard [at] work.not wrote on 4/27/06 2:20 AM:
>
>> On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:41:45 -0400, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>
>>> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14241
>>>
>>> Wow. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have someone who was a FAN of the
>>> original series do the movie?
>>
>> I felt the same way when Bryan Singer took over the Superman project.
>
> that it was going to be horrid beyond belief?
From what I have seen and heard, horrid beyond belief is a little bit cold.
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #263100 ] |
Di, 09 Mai 2006 05:20 |
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Yuk Foo wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:32:07 -0700, ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
>
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>>in article 5ex6h58brgcz.1gwlv3m9jcfnf$.dlg [at] 40tude.net, Yuk Foo at
>>hard [at] work.not wrote on 4/27/06 2:20 AM:
>>
>>
>>>On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:41:45 -0400, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14241
>>>>
>>>>Wow. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have someone who was a FAN of the
>>>>original series do the movie?
>>>
>>>I felt the same way when Bryan Singer took over the Superman project.
>>
>>that it was going to be horrid beyond belief?
>
>
> From what I have seen and heard, horrid beyond belief is a little bit cold.
You know, "horrid beyond belief" accurately describes at least half of
the Star Trek movies... but they entertained millions, and made money
anyway.
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| Re: ST eleven: the latest [message #263136 ] |
Do, 11 Mai 2006 15:12 |
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in article 1wk2o6q8y25cp$.6h1mds4e4lge$.dlg [at] 40tude.net, Yuk Foo at
hard [at] work.not wrote on 5/8/06 10:26 AM:
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:32:07 -0700, ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
>
>> in article 5ex6h58brgcz.1gwlv3m9jcfnf$.dlg [at] 40tude.net, Yuk Foo at
>> hard [at] work.not wrote on 4/27/06 2:20 AM:
>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:41:45 -0400, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>>
>>>> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14241
>>>>
>>>> Wow. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have someone who was a FAN of the
>>>> original series do the movie?
>>>
>>> I felt the same way when Bryan Singer took over the Superman project.
>>
>> that it was going to be horrid beyond belief?
>
> From what I have seen and heard, horrid beyond belief is a little bit cold.
Horrid beyond belief is probably over generous. People are quitting their
jobs rather than continue working on it.
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