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Science Fiction » alt.startrek » Data and contractions
Data and contractions [message #220392] Di, 14 Februar 2006 21:45
Dough  
It appears that Data IS able to formulate contractions whenever he really
wants to... he does it in song, but also in the episode in which he gets a
SF girlfriend (can't recall the title offhand", he comes through the door
into her quarters saying "Honey, I'm home" as well as "You're not my
mother!"

There was also the first or second season episode where he had to set a
temporal anomaly right by inserting a rod into a power stream. When several
copies of him appear in the room, the one that completes the task shouts
"It's me!" when one of the others asks which one is real.

Any other examples?
Re: Data and contractions [message #220393 ] Di, 14 Februar 2006 21:47
Dr Fatneck  
"Dough" <dhubler [at] charter.net> wrote in message
news:WjrIf.27$Bg4.11 [at] fe07.lga...
> It appears that Data IS able to formulate contractions whenever he really
> wants to... he does it in song, but also in the episode in which he gets a
> SF girlfriend (can't recall the title offhand", he comes through the door
> into her quarters saying "Honey, I'm home" as well as "You're not my
> mother!"
>
> There was also the first or second season episode where he had to set a
> temporal anomaly right by inserting a rod into a power stream. When
> several copies of him appear in the room, the one that completes the task
> shouts "It's me!" when one of the others asks which one is real.
>
> Any other examples?
>

way too much time buddy, way too much time......
Re: Data and contractions [message #220403 ] Mi, 15 Februar 2006 03:54
Dough  
"Dr Fatneck" <fatneck [at] yourcunt.com> wrote in message
news:dstflk$6ad$1 [at] news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "Dough" <dhubler [at] charter.net> wrote in message
> news:WjrIf.27$Bg4.11 [at] fe07.lga...
>> It appears that Data IS able to formulate contractions whenever he really
>> wants to... he does it in song, but also in the episode in which he gets
>> a SF girlfriend (can't recall the title offhand", he comes through the
>> door into her quarters saying "Honey, I'm home" as well as "You're not my
>> mother!"
>>
>> There was also the first or second season episode where he had to set a
>> temporal anomaly right by inserting a rod into a power stream. When
>> several copies of him appear in the room, the one that completes the task
>> shouts "It's me!" when one of the others asks which one is real.
>>
>> Any other examples?
>>
>
> way too much time buddy, way too much time......
.... county teacher in the mountains of Tennessee... snow day... TNG
reruns... what can I say.....?
Re: Data and contractions [message #220404 ] Mi, 15 Februar 2006 04:01
OSI  
Dough wrote:

> It appears that Data IS able to formulate contractions whenever he really
> wants to...

The one I remember is from season one. Episode 4 (The Last Outpost) when
the crew is talking to Portal, Data says, "I'm afraid not."

Firstly a contraction, secondly... Data is "afraid?" Hmm...


--
OSI
Re: Data and contractions [message #220405 ] Mi, 15 Februar 2006 06:16
Xino Kiner  
"Dough"

> It appears that Data IS able to formulate contractions whenever he really
> wants to...

Uhh.. I hope it isn't necessary for me to say this, bit it's not that
"Data can't use contractions" but rather it's the case that he was
specifically programmed NOT to use them so that he would appear as less
human so that the colonists would not fear him as they feared Lore.

So if he's singing or quoting or something of course he could pronounce
them. As for when he had a girlfriend, my guess would be that the
contractions were a special part of his new subroutine and therefore generic
quotes of common lines. (Honey I'm home!)

XINO
Re: Data and contractions [message #220410 ] Mi, 15 Februar 2006 21:38
Jennifer Blaustein  
"Dr Fatneck" <fatneck [at] yourcunt.com> wrote in message
news:dstflk$6ad$1 [at] news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "Dough" <dhubler [at] charter.net> wrote in message
> news:WjrIf.27$Bg4.11 [at] fe07.lga...
>> It appears that Data IS able to formulate contractions whenever he really
>> wants to... he does it in song, but also in the episode in which he gets
>> a SF girlfriend (can't recall the title offhand", he comes through the
>> door into her quarters saying "Honey, I'm home" as well as "You're not my
>> mother!"
>>
>> There was also the first or second season episode where he had to set a
>> temporal anomaly right by inserting a rod into a power stream. When
>> several copies of him appear in the room, the one that completes the task
>> shouts "It's me!" when one of the others asks which one is real.
>>
>> Any other examples?
>>
>
> way too much time buddy, way too much time......

I hate when people write this. Anybody in a newsgroup has too much time.

Thanks Dough, good catch! I always knew there had to be some contractions
burried in there somewhere.
Re: Data and contractions [message #220411 ] Mi, 15 Februar 2006 22:22
Graham Kennedy  
Dough wrote:
> It appears that Data IS able to formulate contractions whenever he really
> wants to... he does it in song, but also in the episode in which he gets a
> SF girlfriend (can't recall the title offhand", he comes through the door
> into her quarters saying "Honey, I'm home" as well as "You're not my
> mother!"
>
> There was also the first or second season episode where he had to set a
> temporal anomaly right by inserting a rod into a power stream. When several
> copies of him appear in the room, the one that completes the task shouts
> "It's me!" when one of the others asks which one is real.
>
> Any other examples?

That whole thing never made sense anyway. I mean,
Data does plays and stuff. What if his script says
"I can't"? Is he meant to be incapable of saying
the line or something?

--
Graham Kennedy

Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
Re: Data and contractions [message #220412 ] Mi, 15 Februar 2006 23:55
no-spam  
Quoth Graham Kennedy:
: Dough wrote:
: > It appears that Data IS able to formulate contractions whenever he really
: > wants to... he does it in song, but also in the episode in which he gets a
: > SF girlfriend (can't recall the title offhand", he comes through the door
: > into her quarters saying "Honey, I'm home" as well as "You're not my
: > mother!"
: >
: > There was also the first or second season episode where he had to set a
: > temporal anomaly right by inserting a rod into a power stream. When several
: > copies of him appear in the room, the one that completes the task shouts
: > "It's me!" when one of the others asks which one is real.
: >
: > Any other examples?

: That whole thing never made sense anyway. I mean,
: Data does plays and stuff. What if his script says
: "I can't"? Is he meant to be incapable of saying
: the line or something?

That's right -- he can't.

<gdr>
Re: Data and contractions [message #220413 ] Do, 16 Februar 2006 00:08
Kweeg  
"Scoop" <no-spam [at] sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f3b14b$0$58058$742ec2ed [at] news.sonic.net...
> Quoth Graham Kennedy:
> : Dough wrote:
> : > It appears that Data IS able to formulate contractions whenever he
really
> : > wants to... he does it in song, but also in the episode in which he
gets a
> : > SF girlfriend (can't recall the title offhand", he comes through the
door
> : > into her quarters saying "Honey, I'm home" as well as "You're not my
> : > mother!"
> : >
> : > There was also the first or second season episode where he had to set
a
> : > temporal anomaly right by inserting a rod into a power stream. When
several
> : > copies of him appear in the room, the one that completes the task
shouts
> : > "It's me!" when one of the others asks which one is real.
> : >
> : > Any other examples?
>
> : That whole thing never made sense anyway. I mean,
> : Data does plays and stuff. What if his script says
> : "I can't"? Is he meant to be incapable of saying
> : the line or something?
>
> That's right -- he can't.

That's a bit of a contradiction...... as it's been proved otherwise

--

Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
"So say we all!"
Re: Data and contractions [message #220416 ] Do, 16 Februar 2006 02:41
zonker  
excellent reasoning, i like that. it sounds better than the writers
screwed up.

Peace
Zonker
http://2000ah.blogspot.com/

Xino Kiner wrote:
> "Dough"
>
> > It appears that Data IS able to formulate contractions whenever he really
> > wants to...
>
> Uhh.. I hope it isn't necessary for me to say this, bit it's not that
> "Data can't use contractions" but rather it's the case that he was
> specifically programmed NOT to use them so that he would appear as less
> human so that the colonists would not fear him as they feared Lore.
>
> So if he's singing or quoting or something of course he could pronounce
> them. As for when he had a girlfriend, my guess would be that the
> contractions were a special part of his new subroutine and therefore generic
> quotes of common lines. (Honey I'm home!)
>
> XINO
Re: Data and contractions [message #220433 ] Fr, 17 Februar 2006 21:43
Benjamin Pavsner  
Well, TECHNICALLY, Data isn't supposed to be able to use contractionss (as
pointed out in the episode with Lal in it), but TPTB at Trek were never all
that hung up on continuity, so sometimes Roddenberry (and Berman later) let
things slip a little.
"Dough" <dhubler [at] charter.net> wrote in message
news:WjrIf.27$Bg4.11 [at] fe07.lga...
> It appears that Data IS able to formulate contractions whenever he really
> wants to... he does it in song, but also in the episode in which he gets a
> SF girlfriend (can't recall the title offhand", he comes through the door
> into her quarters saying "Honey, I'm home" as well as "You're not my
> mother!"
>
> There was also the first or second season episode where he had to set a
> temporal anomaly right by inserting a rod into a power stream. When
several
> copies of him appear in the room, the one that completes the task shouts
> "It's me!" when one of the others asks which one is real.
>
> Any other examples?
>
>
Re: Data and contractions [message #220441 ] So, 19 Februar 2006 00:25
Snake  
"Benjamin Pavsner" <pavsnerp [at] bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:oxqJf.18741$Ly6.601 [at] bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> Well, TECHNICALLY, Data isn't supposed to be able to use contractionss (as
> pointed out in the episode with Lal in it), but TPTB at Trek were never
> all
> that hung up on continuity, so sometimes Roddenberry (and Berman later)
> let
> things slip a little.

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