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Science Fiction » alt.startrek » Dr Who newbie needs help
Dr Who newbie needs help [message #199574] Fr, 13 Januar 2006 07:21
Glassman  
No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the bad
Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor Who!
I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent but
have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the best
flavor. Any advice?


--
"Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY"
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #199575 ] Fr, 13 Januar 2006 07:38
Bozo the Evil Klown  
Glassman wrote:
> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
> every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the bad
> Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
> Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
> ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor Who!
> I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
> ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent but
> have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the best
> flavor. Any advice?
>


The Third Doctor (Jon Pertwee) and the Fourth Doctor (Tom Baker) were
the best.

*****

The Joker in the Eeeeeeeeeevil Cabal deck of cards.

"Voyager to alien fleet- Hold your fire! Hold your fire!! I promise
that WASN'T a kamikaze attack; that's the way Chakotay ALWAYS lands his
shuttles!!"
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #199577 ] Fr, 13 Januar 2006 08:59
Luther Root  
Glassman wrote:
> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
> every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the bad
> Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
> Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
> ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor Who!
> I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
> ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent but
> have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the best
> flavor. Any advice?
>

Um, why don't you post this to the DW ng?

-- LR
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #199578 ] Fr, 13 Januar 2006 12:16
David Chapman  
From the Collected Witterings of Glassman, volume 23:
> Niether of us has ever seen one ep
> of Doctor Who! I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on
> these NG's, I'm ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps
> via Bit Torrent but have no idea which to start with? What years and eps
> will give us the best flavor. Any advice?

There's not much you need to know. What with the re-release mostly being
comprised of homages and nods, you can start with 27X01 and not feel left
out.

--
"My son is not a terrorist - he is a junior IT support officer."
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #199579 ] Fr, 13 Januar 2006 13:24
Mykl Temple  
"Luther Root" <Luther.Root [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1137139187.639149.163960 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Glassman wrote:
>> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
>> every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the
>> bad
>> Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
>> Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
>> ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor
>> Who!
>> I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
>> ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent
>> but
>> have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the
>> best
>> flavor. Any advice?
>>
>
> Um, why don't you post this to the DW ng?
>
> -- LR
>
You'll get so many different answers to this one. the new dr who series is
very different from the old but is really good. as for the old well
personally i liked the third and fivth docs the best. I agree with the above
post though try the dr who ng.
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #199580 ] Fr, 13 Januar 2006 15:06
doctor  
In article <xFHxf.452$r_4.230 [at] fe09.lga>, Glassman <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote:
> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
>every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the bad
>Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
>Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
>ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor Who!
>I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
>ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent but
>have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the best
>flavor. Any advice?
>

An Unearthly Chld, The War Games and Spearhead from Space for starters.
--
Member - Liberal International
This is doctor [at] nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor [at] nl2k.ab.ca
God Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Canada : Consider carefully whom to vote for on 23 Jan 2006, I choose Liberal!
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202167 ] Fr, 13 Januar 2006 16:55
mechdan  
Glassman wrote:

>Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor Who!

>What years and eps will give us the best
>flavor. Any advice?

I started with the Tom Baker years, which I think
were most popular here in the U.S. But there's a
big problem, I think.

To me, the main appeal of Doctor Who came from its
half hour cliffhanger format. Really, the shows
weren't that great, but it was really addictive
because they ended in cliffhangers and you just had
to see what happened next.

IMHO, it just doesn't work in the format generally
available today--with all episodes of a story
edited together into a single long "movie". All of
the suspense is gone, and the cliffhangers just seem
stuck in there not making much sense.

Isaac Kuo
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202171 ] Fr, 13 Januar 2006 18:34
Jette Goldie  
"Bozo the Evil Klown" <Evilklowwn [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:1137134290.361965.55600 [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Glassman wrote:
>> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
>> every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the
>> bad
>> Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
>> Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
>> ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor
>> Who!
>> I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
>> ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent
>> but
>> have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the
>> best
>> flavor. Any advice?
>>
>
>
> The Third Doctor (Jon Pertwee) and the Fourth Doctor (Tom Baker) were
> the best.


Eek, no! Third Doctor was awful - but the 2nd Doctor was brilliant!


--
Jette Goldie
jette [at] blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
("reply to" is spamblocked)
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202172 ] Fr, 13 Januar 2006 19:01
advance scout  
"Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:xFHxf.452$r_4.230 [at] fe09.lga...

> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
> every Trek incarnation in reruns

I "religiously" watch all of those too. I always wear a Yamulka and say
some prayers before watching.


;)




>
> --
> "Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY"
> JK Sinrod
> Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
> www.sinrodstudios.com
> Coney Island Memories
> www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
>
>
>
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202175 ] Fr, 13 Januar 2006 20:30
mchary  
In article <xFHxf.452$r_4.230 [at] fe09.lga>, Glassman <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote:
> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
>every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the bad
>Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
>Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
>ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor Who!
>I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
>ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent but
>have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the best
>flavor. Any advice?
>

My first Doctor was Pertwee, but Tom Baker was the best. I suggest you
start with either Pyramids of Mars or Spearhead from Space.
--
The All-New, All-Different Howling Curmudgeons!
http://www.whiterose.org/howlingcurmudgeons
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202176 ] Fr, 13 Januar 2006 22:02
Neil Nadelman  
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:34:40 GMT, "Jette Goldie"
<bosslady [at] scotlandmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Bozo the Evil Klown" <Evilklowwn [at] aol.com> wrote in message
>news:1137134290.361965.55600 [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> The Third Doctor (Jon Pertwee) and the Fourth Doctor (Tom Baker) were
>> the best.
>
>
>Eek, no! Third Doctor was awful - but the 2nd Doctor was brilliant!

And there, in a nutshell, is the brilliance of Doctor Who:
since ten men have portrayed him over the years, everyone has great
fun arguing about "Who the best Doctor is."
-----------------------------------------------------
Neil Nadelman arvy [at] navzr-genafyngbe.pbz (ROT13)
-----------------------------------------------------
I have no fears in life,
for I have already survived Theta-G!
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202177 ] Fr, 13 Januar 2006 22:06
Neil Nadelman  
On 13 Jan 2006 07:55:27 -0800, "IsaacKuo" <mechdan [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

>I started with the Tom Baker years, which I think
>were most popular here in the U.S. But there's a
>big problem, I think.
>
>To me, the main appeal of Doctor Who came from its
>half hour cliffhanger format. Really, the shows
>weren't that great, but it was really addictive
>because they ended in cliffhangers and you just had
>to see what happened next.
>
>IMHO, it just doesn't work in the format generally
>available today--with all episodes of a story
>edited together into a single long "movie". All of
>the suspense is gone, and the cliffhangers just seem
>stuck in there not making much sense.
>
>Isaac Kuo

But the only places you can find Doctor Who episodes these
days are on the DVDs, which aren't edited together into the movie
versions. The series only runs on, like, two PBS stations in the US.

On the other hand, the original poster can wait till March and
then see the new Who series on Sci-Fi Channel. It's going to be
replacing Stargate: Atlantis on Fridays after they finish with the new
SG:A episodes.
-----------------------------------------------------
Neil Nadelman arvy [at] navzr-genafyngbe.pbz (ROT13)
-----------------------------------------------------
I have no fears in life,
for I have already survived Theta-G!
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202179 ] Sa, 14 Januar 2006 00:04
Wouter Valentijn  
Michael Alan Chary wrote:
> In article <xFHxf.452$r_4.230 [at] fe09.lga>, Glassman <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
> wrote:
>> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously
>> watch every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer
>> Limits, even the bad Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG
>> Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion, Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I
>> must have every B, 1950's horror film ever made. Here's the rub.
>> Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor Who! I can't explain
>> it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm ready to
>> take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent but
>> have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us
>> the best flavor. Any advice?
>>
>
> My first Doctor was Pertwee, but Tom Baker was the best. I suggest you
> start with either Pyramids of Mars or Spearhead from Space.

Tom Baker was indeed the best.
Check out 'Genesis of the Daleks'.


--
Wouter Valentijn

www.wouter.cc
www.nksf.nl
www.zeppodunsel.nl
liam=mail

The glory of creation is in its infinite diversity and the ways our
differences combine to create meaning and beauty.
Vulcan IDIC "Is There In Truth No Beauty?"
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202182 ] Sa, 14 Januar 2006 00:31
Beth  
Michael Alan Chary wrote:
> In article <xFHxf.452$r_4.230 [at] fe09.lga>, Glassman <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote:
>
>> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
>>every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the bad
>>Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
>>Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
>>ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor Who!
>>I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
>>ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent but
>>have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the best
>>flavor. Any advice?
>>
>
>
> My first Doctor was Pertwee, but Tom Baker was the best. I suggest you
> start with either Pyramids of Mars or Spearhead from Space.

The one that really hooked me was Genesis of the Daleks.

--
Beth

Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it is too
dark to read.
Groucho Marx
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202183 ] Sa, 14 Januar 2006 00:53
music  
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:24:05 +1000, "Mykl Temple"
<myklt [at] optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>
>"Luther Root" <Luther.Root [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1137139187.639149.163960 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Glassman wrote:
>>> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
>>> every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the
>>> bad
>>> Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
>>> Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
>>> ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor
>>> Who!
>>> I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
>>> ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent
>>> but
>>> have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the
>>> best
>>> flavor. Any advice?
>>>
>>
>> Um, why don't you post this to the DW ng?
>>
>> -- LR
>>
>You'll get so many different answers to this one. the new dr who series is
>very different from the old but is really good. as for the old well
>personally i liked the third and fivth docs the best. I agree with the above
>post though try the dr who ng.
>

what do you mean " new" and " old"?
DrWho205 is season 27..so it is still the "old" show..





****************************************
Wolf Creek:

Liz Hunter: Ben's from Australia.
Ben Mitchell: Yeah, Sydney.
Mick Taylor: Poofter capital of the world.
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202187 ] Sa, 14 Januar 2006 01:40
Night Spirit  
Beth Boldly typed:
> Michael Alan Chary wrote:
>> In article <xFHxf.452$r_4.230 [at] fe09.lga>, Glassman <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
>> wrote:=20
>>=20
>>> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously
>>> watch every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer
>>> Limits, even the bad Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG
>>> Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion, Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I
>>> must have every B, 1950's horror film ever made. Here's the rub.
>>> Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor Who! I can't explain
>>> it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm ready to
>>> take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent but
>>> have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us
>>> the best flavor. Any advice?=20
>>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> My first Doctor was Pertwee, but Tom Baker was the best. I suggest
>> you start with either Pyramids of Mars or Spearhead from Space.
>=20
> The one that really hooked me was Genesis of the Daleks.


Tom Baker
Peter Davidson
Christopher Eccleston=20

--=20
Blessed Be,
Nightspirit

The world wide web at my finger tips and I can't find anything
interesting.=20

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RivertonCommonRecipeBul letinBoard/
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202195 ] Sa, 14 Januar 2006 02:55
Val Hooligan  
"Neil Nadelman" <arvy [at] navzr-genafyngbe.pbz (ROT13)> wrote in message
news:i95gs15tg30v992hddrb593mmgs5ofm8qj [at] 4ax.com...
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:34:40 GMT, "Jette Goldie"
> <bosslady [at] scotlandmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bozo the Evil Klown" <Evilklowwn [at] aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:1137134290.361965.55600 [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> The Third Doctor (Jon Pertwee) and the Fourth Doctor (Tom Baker) were
>>> the best.
>>
>>
>>Eek, no! Third Doctor was awful - but the 2nd Doctor was brilliant!
>
> And there, in a nutshell, is the brilliance of Doctor Who:
> since ten men have portrayed him over the years, everyone has great
> fun arguing about "Who the best Doctor is."

Too true! I hated Tom Baker's portrayal and as a family we stopped watching
it until he was at the end of his time.

I still think your first Doctor is always going to be the best.

Cheers,

Val.
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202204 ] Sa, 14 Januar 2006 03:55
Jaxtraw  
"Val Hooligan" <speaknowEEK [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:nSYxf.5169$lL4.652 [at] fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Neil Nadelman" <arvy [at] navzr-genafyngbe.pbz (ROT13)> wrote in message
> news:i95gs15tg30v992hddrb593mmgs5ofm8qj [at] 4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:34:40 GMT, "Jette Goldie"
> > <bosslady [at] scotlandmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Bozo the Evil Klown" <Evilklowwn [at] aol.com> wrote in message
> >>news:1137134290.361965.55600 [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >>>
> >>> The Third Doctor (Jon Pertwee) and the Fourth Doctor (Tom Baker) were
> >>> the best.
> >>
> >>
> >>Eek, no! Third Doctor was awful - but the 2nd Doctor was brilliant!
> >
> > And there, in a nutshell, is the brilliance of Doctor Who:
> > since ten men have portrayed him over the years, everyone has great
> > fun arguing about "Who the best Doctor is."
>
> Too true! I hated Tom Baker's portrayal and as a family we stopped
watching
> it until he was at the end of his time.
>
> I still think your first Doctor is always going to be the best.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Val.
>
>

Being the age I am, I started watching in the Pertwee years, my main Doctor
was Tom Baker, then I gradually lost interest when the wet vet took over.
Watched it a bit during the decline towards Sylvester McCoy, but by that
point it was just outdated and embarrassing- though that special weapons
hard dalek they invented was pretty cool.

So for me, my big memories are the frequent alien invasions of the home
counties, UNIT, Sarah Jane Smith, Lalla Ward as Romana (hubba hubba, by God,
Dawkins is a lucky man), the terrifying maggots in the Green Death story,
and the Wyrren(sp?) on that space station thing. They were brill.

Ian

www.jaxtrawstudios.com
science fiction comics with shagging in
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202209 ] Sa, 14 Januar 2006 06:31
Anybody  
In article <oafgs155k8n6uq46i0iuviq01omgiddrcj [at] 4ax.com>, "Matthew(The
Ghost Whisperer)" <music [at] night.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:24:05 +1000, "Mykl Temple"
> <myklt [at] optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Luther Root" <Luther.Root [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1137139187.639149.163960 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> Glassman wrote:
> >>> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
> >>> every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the
> >>> bad
> >>> Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
> >>> Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
> >>> ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor
> >>> Who!
> >>> I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
> >>> ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent
> >>> but
> >>> have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the
> >>> best
> >>> flavor. Any advice?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Um, why don't you post this to the DW ng?
> >>
> >> -- LR
> >>
> >You'll get so many different answers to this one. the new dr who series is
> >very different from the old but is really good. as for the old well
> >personally i liked the third and fivth docs the best. I agree with the above
> >post though try the dr who ng.
>
> what do you mean " new" and " old"?
> DrWho205 is season 27..so it is still the "old" show..

Technically it is simply a new season, but it's not the old show. Just
as Mykl Temple says, it is different, and personally I find it just
another hopeless show in the current trend of resurrecting everything
from the past. Some of the old versions are much better.
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202210 ] Sa, 14 Januar 2006 07:18
Glassman  
"Luther Root" <Luther.Root [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1137139187.639149.163960 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Glassman wrote:
> > No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
> > every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the
bad
> > Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
> > Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror
film
> > ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor
Who!
> > I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's,
I'm
> > ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent
but
> > have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the
best
> > flavor. Any advice?
> >
>
> Um, why don't you post this to the DW ng?
>
> -- LR
>

To much that I know nothing about over there, so all I wanted was a
start.

--
"Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY"
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202211 ] Sa, 14 Januar 2006 08:47
Kweeg  
"Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:140120061831030551%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <oafgs155k8n6uq46i0iuviq01omgiddrcj [at] 4ax.com>, "Matthew(The
> Ghost Whisperer)" <music [at] night.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:24:05 +1000, "Mykl Temple"
> > <myklt [at] optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Luther Root" <Luther.Root [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:1137139187.639149.163960 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > >>
> > >> Glassman wrote:
> > >>> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously
watch
> > >>> every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even
the
> > >>> bad
> > >>> Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even
Invasion,
> > >>> Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror
film
> > >>> ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of
Doctor
> > >>> Who!
> > >>> I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these
NG's, I'm
> > >>> ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit
Torrent
> > >>> but
> > >>> have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us
the
> > >>> best
> > >>> flavor. Any advice?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Um, why don't you post this to the DW ng?
> > >>
> > >> -- LR
> > >>
> > >You'll get so many different answers to this one. the new dr who series
is
> > >very different from the old but is really good. as for the old well
> > >personally i liked the third and fivth docs the best. I agree with the
above
> > >post though try the dr who ng.
> >
> > what do you mean " new" and " old"?
> > DrWho205 is season 27..so it is still the "old" show..
>
> Technically it is simply a new season, but it's not the old show. Just
> as Mykl Temple says, it is different, and personally I find it just
> another hopeless show in the current trend of resurrecting everything
> from the past. Some of the old versions are much better.


Oh here it comes "Anybody's" usual tirade, it's new so it can't be good
*even though* it's a new season after a few year hiatus. The new Dr Who is
as good as any previous, it's still the good Doctor as much as any of it's
predecessors.

--

Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202212 ] Sa, 14 Januar 2006 10:26
The Black Guardian  
Neil Nadelman (ROT13) wrote:
> Jette Goldie wrote:
>> Bozo the Evil Klown wrote:
>>> The Third Doctor (Jon Pertwee) and the Fourth Doctor (Tom Baker) were
>>> the best.
>>
>> Eek, no! Third Doctor was awful - but the 2nd Doctor was brilliant!
>
> And there, in a nutshell, is the brilliance of Doctor Who:
> since ten men have portrayed him over the years, everyone has great
> fun arguing about "Who the best Doctor is."

While true, invariably, the most popular Doctors (ie, those with the
largest number of fans) are Baker and Pertwee. So, no one should be
surprised when they hear/read someone make the exclamation.

A corollary to the "brilliance of Doctor Who" is that, for me
personally, the best Doctor tends to vary by what mood I happen to be
in at the time I'm asked. Sometimes I prefer Pertwee; other times it's
Tom Baker or Davidson; very rarely it will be Troughton or McCoy. Never
is it Hartnell or "that other Baker." And I often have sympathy for
McGann, who often gets the short end of the stick just for being in the
Americanized DOCTOR WHO. Since I'm an American who doesn't download eps
off the 'Net; I haven't seen Eccleston, so I cannot judge.

My first experience was with Pertwee, so he's the one who got me
interested. Sure, he was a fop, but he also genuinely cared more deeply
than any of the others.

Tom Baker joined soon after I became a fan, and he stayed
for-freaking-ever, so most of my early memories of the Doctor are from
him. I absolutely adore his constantly-fluctuating personality that
drips with cynicism. Nah... who am I kidding... it's definitely the
scarf and jelly babies!

Davidson's Doctor was more human and less pretentious and selfish, so
I've got a lot of respect for him.

Sometime during Davidson's run, I was introduced to Troughton eps. When
I see Troughton, I always think of the Stooge Shemp, so I never could
get into him. It didn't help that he was, at times, bumbling (though he
was also calculatingly manipulative).

Colin Baker's Doctor... melodramatic, vain, tactlessly arrogant...
(grrrr) I almost stopped watching.

It was about this time that I saw a few Hartnell eps. I wasn't
impressed. Not as bad as "the other Baker," but... hmm... "crotchety
old coot" fits.

McCoy's Doctor was too much like Troughton for me to truly enjoy,
though he had his moments.

The McGann Doctor was probably the most romantic of them all (though
I'm sure Romana II might beg to differ). Pity we didn't see more of him.
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202214 ] Sa, 14 Januar 2006 15:37
neilalastair  
Its a bit like Bond

Roger Moore will always be my favourite, Sean Connery my wifes.

In terms of Doctor Who I liked Tom and Slyvester. The most accomplished
actor i think was Colin Baker, catch some of the audio adventures on BBC
online. However Colin Bakers TV years were sadly hampered but atrocious
writing and dodgy special effect even by Dr Who standards. The trial of a
time lord sticks in my mind as a good set of episodes though and features
two of Colins best assets, Peri and er Peri.

"Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:xFHxf.452$r_4.230 [at] fe09.lga...
> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
> every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the
> bad
> Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
> Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
> ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor
> Who!
> I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
> ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent
> but
> have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the
> best
> flavor. Any advice?
>
>
> --
> "Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY"
> JK Sinrod
> Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
> www.sinrodstudios.com
> Coney Island Memories
> www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
>
>
>
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202225 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 01:51
Benjamin Pavsner  
As EVERYBODY has said, each Doctor has his fans. If you ever get to see any
videos, I'd suggest anything from the first season,. The first couple,
100,000 BC and the Daleks story are absolute must sees for Who fans. I
always liked Pertwee's Doctor (that's when the Master was introduced. Forget
the guy who played him, but his is the definative version), and Tom Baker
version reminds me of every weird science teacher I ever had. Which is GOOD,
btw.
"Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:xFHxf.452$r_4.230 [at] fe09.lga...
> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
> every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the
bad
> Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
> Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
> ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor
Who!
> I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
> ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent
but
> have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the
best
> flavor. Any advice?
>
>
> --
> "Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY"
> JK Sinrod
> Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
> www.sinrodstudios.com
> Coney Island Memories
> www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
>
>
>
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202231 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 03:30
Glassman  
"neilalastair" <neilalastair [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gPScnaKQ35h-llTeSa8jmw [at] karoo.co.uk...
> Its a bit like Bond
>
> Roger Moore will always be my favourite, Sean Connery my wifes.
>
>

Seriously? No one likes Roger over Sean that I know?


--
"Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY"
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202236 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 04:23
Kweeg  
"Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:xtiyf.540$1K5.167 [at] fe09.lga...
>
> "neilalastair" <neilalastair [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:gPScnaKQ35h-llTeSa8jmw [at] karoo.co.uk...
> > Its a bit like Bond
> >
> > Roger Moore will always be my favourite, Sean Connery my wifes.
> >
> >
>
> Seriously? No one likes Roger over Sean that I know?

Indeed.
IMO, Moore's best film was his first (Live and Let Die) one of my fav bond
flicks.... but think how much better it would have been with Connery {{;-/>

--

Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202237 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 05:00
Arthur Lipscomb  
"Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:xtiyf.540$1K5.167 [at] fe09.lga...
>
> "neilalastair" <neilalastair [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:gPScnaKQ35h-llTeSa8jmw [at] karoo.co.uk...
>> Its a bit like Bond
>>
>> Roger Moore will always be my favourite, Sean Connery my wifes.
>>
>>
>
> Seriously? No one likes Roger over Sean that I know?
>
>
> --

I also prefer Roger over Sean. I never understood the appeal of Sean, other
than he was first.
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202241 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 07:05
Bo Raxo  
"Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:xFHxf.452$r_4.230 [at] fe09.lga...
> No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
> every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the
bad
> Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
> Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
> ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor
Who!
> I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
> ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent
but
> have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the
best
> flavor. Any advice?
>
>

To completely not answer your question, if you're a sci-fi fan and you ever
get the chance, check out another Brit series called Blake's 7. Really
good, great actors, gritty characters, good episode stories and an
interesting overall arc to things over the course of each season. And the
series finale will just floor you.


Bo Raxo
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202242 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 07:17
Anybody  
In article <8Dlyf.5223$WY5.1669 [at] newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "Bo
Raxo" <invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote:
>
> To completely not answer your question, if you're a sci-fi fan and you ever
> get the chance, check out another Brit series called Blake's 7. Really
> good, great actors, gritty characters, good episode stories and an
> interesting overall arc to things over the course of each season. And the
> series finale will just floor you.

Plus the silly new follow-on series they were planning appears to have
thankfully been dropped. :-)
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202248 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 09:30
ANIM8Rfsk  
in article l42dnVCIl-9VVVTeRVn-rw [at] comcast.com, Arthur Lipscomb at
a.lipscomb [at] comcast.net wrote on 1/14/06 9:00 PM:

>
> "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
> news:xtiyf.540$1K5.167 [at] fe09.lga...
>>
>> "neilalastair" <neilalastair [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:gPScnaKQ35h-llTeSa8jmw [at] karoo.co.uk...
>>> Its a bit like Bond
>>>
>>> Roger Moore will always be my favourite, Sean Connery my wifes.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Seriously? No one likes Roger over Sean that I know?
>>
>>
>> --
>
> I also prefer Roger over Sean. I never understood the appeal of Sean, other
> than he was first.
>
>
Barry Nelson was first. Roger Moore was worst.
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202249 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 09:56
The Black Guardian  
ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
> Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>> Glassman wrote:
>>> neilalastair wrote:
>>>> Its a bit like Bond
>>>>
>>>> Roger Moore will always be my favourite, Sean Connery my wifes.
>>>
>>> Seriously? No one likes Roger over Sean that I know?
>>
>> I also prefer Roger over Sean. I never understood the appeal of Sean, other
>> than he was first.
>
> Barry Nelson was first.

Feh... That Bond was American! He doesn't count. :P

I wouldn't count David Niven either, because that CASINO ROYALE was too
comedic to take seriously.

> Roger Moore was worst.

I believe that title goes to Timothy Dalton. I'd rather be forced to
watch Moore for days than watch even a minute's worth of Dalton.
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202250 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 10:47
Bo Raxo  
"The Black Guardian" <blakgard [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:1137315378.917650.84340 [at] g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
> > Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
> >> Glassman wrote:
> >>> neilalastair wrote:
> >>>> Its a bit like Bond
> >>>>
> >>>> Roger Moore will always be my favourite, Sean Connery my wifes.
> >>>
> >>> Seriously? No one likes Roger over Sean that I know?
> >>
> >> I also prefer Roger over Sean. I never understood the appeal of Sean,
other
> >> than he was first.
> >
> > Barry Nelson was first.
>
> Feh... That Bond was American! He doesn't count. :P
>
> I wouldn't count David Niven either, because that CASINO ROYALE was too
> comedic to take seriously.
>
> > Roger Moore was worst.
>
> I believe that title goes to Timothy Dalton. I'd rather be forced to
> watch Moore for days than watch even a minute's worth of Dalton.
>

I thought Lazenby was a very interesting Bond. The guy wasn't an actor,
which in a strange way was both good and bad. He wasn't playing a suave
agent, he just seemed like a tough guy who could turn dangerous.

Moore is underrated I think because he got some of the worst scripts. I
mean, For Your Eyes Only, Moonraker: can you even try to picture Connery
trying to look cool in these ridiculous situations?

Dalton was terrible, you just couldn't for a second forget that he was an
actor playing a role. For one thing, he looked too delicate: can you see
this guy bringing down a couple of the villain's henchmen?

For the new Bond, Daniel Craig will probably be good. But I think Clive
Owen would have been a great choice. He's just got the right kind of screen
presence.


Bo Raxo
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202253 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 12:45
al019  
IsaacKuo (mechdan [at] yahoo.com) wrote:

: Glassman wrote:

: >Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor Who!

: >What years and eps will give us the best
: >flavor. Any advice?

: I started with the Tom Baker years, which I think
: were most popular here in the U.S. But there's a
: big problem, I think.

: To me, the main appeal of Doctor Who came from its
: half hour cliffhanger format. Really, the shows
: weren't that great, but it was really addictive
: because they ended in cliffhangers and you just had
: to see what happened next.

: IMHO, it just doesn't work in the format generally
: available today--with all episodes of a story
: edited together into a single long "movie". All of
: the suspense is gone, and the cliffhangers just seem
: stuck in there not making much sense.

The video's are not releassed in this format.

Brad
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202254 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 12:52
al019  
Glassman (jksinrod [at] aol.com) wrote:

: "Luther Root" <Luther.Root [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
: news:1137139187.639149.163960 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
: >
: > Glassman wrote:
: > > No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
: > > every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the
: bad
: > > Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
: > > Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror
: film
: > > ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor
: Who!
: > > I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's,
: I'm
: > > ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent
: but
: > > have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the
: best
: > > flavor. Any advice?
: > >
: >
: > Um, why don't you post this to the DW ng?
: >
: > -- LR
: >

: To much that I know nothing about over there, so all I wanted was a
: start.

Actually, you may have made the right descision, though technically it's
off topic here, but I think most of us don't mind. rec.arts.drwho can be
informative, but the group is sometimes taken over by trolls, most
obviously by a poster named DBurns who hates the seventh doctor and
actually thinks that if you like that doctor even a little, you are a
supporter of terrorism (I can't figure out his logic either). Still, not
everyone there is like him.

As for the best place to start, like most shows, at the beginning. "An
Unearthly Child" which launched the series back in 1963. Keep in mind
however, that many first and second doctor stories are not complete, due
to the destroying of much BBC material in the 1970's.

Brad
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202255 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 12:55
al019  
Bo Raxo (invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com) wrote:

: "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
: news:xFHxf.452$r_4.230 [at] fe09.lga...
: > No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
: > every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the
: bad
: > Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
: > Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
: > ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor
: Who!
: > I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
: > ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent
: but
: > have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the
: best
: > flavor. Any advice?
: >
: >

: To completely not answer your question, if you're a sci-fi fan and you ever
: get the chance, check out another Brit series called Blake's 7. Really
: good, great actors, gritty characters, good episode stories and an
: interesting overall arc to things over the course of each season. And the
: series finale will just floor you.

Yes, with how bad it is.

Brad
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202266 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 18:31
Jette Goldie  
"Arthur Lipscomb" <a.lipscomb [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
news:l42dnVCIl-9VVVTeRVn-rw [at] comcast.com...
>
> "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
> news:xtiyf.540$1K5.167 [at] fe09.lga...
>>
>> "neilalastair" <neilalastair [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:gPScnaKQ35h-llTeSa8jmw [at] karoo.co.uk...
>>> Its a bit like Bond
>>>
>>> Roger Moore will always be my favourite, Sean Connery my wifes.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Seriously? No one likes Roger over Sean that I know?
>>
>>
>> --
>
> I also prefer Roger over Sean. I never understood the appeal of Sean,
> other than he was first.
>

How about Roger can't act, and, although Sean isn't *that* great an actor
either, he can at least "carry a part".


--
Jette Goldie
jette [at] blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
("reply to" is spamblocked)
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202268 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 19:08
Benjamin Pavsner  
Along the train of thought of other great Sci-Fi shows (especially out of
Britain) is MY personal fav, Red Dwarf. Probably one of the few (if only)
Sci Fi comedies that actually work. They tried transferring it over to the
States, but it never got out of the pilot stage.
"Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in message
news:8Dlyf.5223$WY5.1669 [at] newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
> news:xFHxf.452$r_4.230 [at] fe09.lga...
> > No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously
watch
> > every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the
> bad
> > Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
> > Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror
film
> > ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor
> Who!
> > I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's,
I'm
> > ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent
> but
> > have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the
> best
> > flavor. Any advice?
> >
> >
>
> To completely not answer your question, if you're a sci-fi fan and you
ever
> get the chance, check out another Brit series called Blake's 7. Really
> good, great actors, gritty characters, good episode stories and an
> interesting overall arc to things over the course of each season. And the
> series finale will just floor you.
>
>
> Bo Raxo
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202273 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 21:05
Invid Fan  
In article <U9wyf.136487$k76.66941 [at] bignews6.bellsouth.net>, Benjamin
Pavsner <pavsnerp [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Along the train of thought of other great Sci-Fi shows (especially out of
> Britain) is MY personal fav, Red Dwarf. Probably one of the few (if only)
> Sci Fi comedies that actually work. They tried transferring it over to the
> States, but it never got out of the pilot stage.

Just as well, given that the original creators had trouble doing 6 good
scripts a year so 22 would have burned through the obvious plots rather
quickly. The pilot I saw introduced Kryton immediatly (with the
original actor) to give them more to work with.

--
Chris Mack "Refugee, total shit. That's how I've always seen us.
'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between us."
-'Deal/No Deal', CHESS
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202277 ] So, 15 Januar 2006 23:43
William George Fergus  
On 15 Jan 2006 00:56:18 -0800, "The Black Guardian" <blakgard [at] aol.com>
wrote:

>ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
>> Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>> Glassman wrote:
>>>> neilalastair wrote:
>>>>> Its a bit like Bond
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger Moore will always be my favourite, Sean Connery my wifes.
>>>>
>>>> Seriously? No one likes Roger over Sean that I know?
>>>
>>> I also prefer Roger over Sean. I never understood the appeal of Sean, other
>>> than he was first.
>>
>> Barry Nelson was first.
>
>Feh... That Bond was American! He doesn't count. :P
>
>I wouldn't count David Niven either, because that CASINO ROYALE was too
>comedic to take seriously.
>
>> Roger Moore was worst.
>
>I believe that title goes to Timothy Dalton. I'd rather be forced to
>watch Moore for days than watch even a minute's worth of Dalton.

"Timothy Dalton should win the Oscar and hit Sean Connery over the head
with it." (The other one, you know, Tucker's brother)
--
I have a theory, it could be bunnies
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #202280 ] Mo, 16 Januar 2006 01:02
Anybody  
In article <dqdd7a$rvk$16 [at] News.Dal.Ca>, al019 [at] chebucto.ns.ca (Brad
Filippone) wrote:

> Bo Raxo (invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com) wrote:
>
> : "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
> : news:xFHxf.452$r_4.230 [at] fe09.lga...
> : > No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
> : > every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the
> : > bad Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
> : > Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
> : > ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor
> : Who!
> : > I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
> : > ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent
> : but
> : > have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the
> : best
> : > flavor. Any advice?
> : >
> : >
> :
> : To completely not answer your question, if you're a sci-fi fan and you ever
> : get the chance, check out another Brit series called Blake's 7. Really
> : good, great actors, gritty characters, good episode stories and an
> : interesting overall arc to things over the course of each season. And the
> : series finale will just floor you.
>
> Yes, with how bad it is.

Most Americans simply don't "get" Brisith TV shows - that's why the
movie versions they make are so abysmal: Dr Who, Thunderbirds, ...
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