| Better Trek Fan-fic: Star Trek Hidden Frontier [message #178133] |
Mo, 05 Dezember 2005 00:13 |
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| Re: Better Trek Fan-fic: Star Trek Hidden Frontier [message #178134 ] |
Mo, 05 Dezember 2005 00:55 |
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"Neon Knight" <knightofneon [at] spamex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9722AF2C7848619knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
> Star Trek: Hidden Frontier, set in the TNG era, seems to have better
> acting than the Captain Elvis or the Exeter series. I watched the
> episode "Countermeasures" - not too bad.
<snip>
You are kidding right? It's absolutely abysmal. It's exactly those kind of
people that put the geek in trek. I defiantly rather stick with Starship
Exeter or New Voyages.
http://www.starshipexeter.com/
http://www.newvoyages.com/
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: Better Trek Fan-fic: Star Trek Hidden Frontier [message #178135 ] |
Mo, 05 Dezember 2005 01:01 |
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| Re: Better Trek Fan-fic: Star Trek Hidden Frontier [message #178136 ] |
Mo, 05 Dezember 2005 01:03 |
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| Re: Better Trek Fan-fic: Star Trek Hidden Frontier [message #178139 ] |
Mo, 05 Dezember 2005 05:58 |
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"Neon Knight" <knightofneon [at] spamex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9722B746B78E019knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
> "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in
> news:xlLkf.43838$Eq5.33086 [at] pd7tw1no:
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> > You are kidding right? It's absolutely abysmal.
>
> I only watched the one episode, from "Season Six." The reason for that
> is when I went to check out the episodes, there was a recommendation
> from one of the creators to watch that episode first (because they've
> gotten better?)
>
> I'll say it again, while the acting wasn't "movie quality" it was a hell
> of alot better than the other 2 Fan-fic attempts. Even the whale was a
> better actor then Captain Elvis or Garrovick.
<snip>
.....and to quote McCoy, "In a pig's eye!" Say what ya want about the acting,
I think it's about the same but New Frontiers suffers from *extremely* poor
casting.(some teenager playing a "captain" while obviously older persons are
cast in supporting roles) It constantly looks like a TNG Trekkies worst (or
best) wet dream, too much happing all at one (with the FX) and tecnobabble
to spare.
The other two have far superior production values, as they actually *have*
sets. Lets not forget New Voyages has Eugene Roddenberry Jr. as a consulting
producer, a CGI Artist "Max Rem" who actually works for Paramount, as well
as cameos from other various TOS actors such as Eddie Paskey (Mr Leslie)
William Windom (Matt Decker) *and* a member of the original cast in the 3rd
episode (Walter Koenig) written by TOS Trek alumni Dorothy Fontana.
http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2005/05/27/Arts/koenig 050527.html?ref=rss
"This brings up an important philosophical question: if a fan film stars an
original cast member from Star Trek and is written by a writer who worked on
the original series and has state-of-the-art special effects, how is it
different from the real Star Trek?"
......Koenig says he is willing to risk looking desperate for one last chance
to inhabit the role that made him semi-famous. And what if people laugh?
"Screw it if they feel that way."
Atta boy Walter!
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: Better Trek Fan-fic: Star Trek Hidden Frontier [message #178144 ] |
Mo, 05 Dezember 2005 08:06 |
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"Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in
news:vNPkf.41545$ki.394 [at] pd7tw2no:
> "Neon Knight" <knightofneon [at] spamex.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9722B746B78E019knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
>> "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in
>> news:xlLkf.43838$Eq5.33086 [at] pd7tw1no:
>>
>> > You are kidding right? It's absolutely abysmal.
>>
>> I only watched the one episode, from "Season Six." The reason for
>> that is when I went to check out the episodes, there was a
>> recommendation from one of the creators to watch that episode first
>> (because they've gotten better?)
>>
>> I'll say it again, while the acting wasn't "movie quality" it was a
>> hell of alot better than the other 2 Fan-fic attempts. Even the whale
>> was a better actor then Captain Elvis or Garrovick.
> <snip>
>
> ....and to quote McCoy, "In a pig's eye!" Say what ya want about the
> acting, I think it's about the same but New Frontiers suffers from
> *extremely* poor casting.(some teenager playing a "captain" while
> obviously older persons are cast in supporting roles) It constantly
> looks like a TNG Trekkies worst (or best) wet dream, too much happing
> all at one (with the FX) and tecnobabble to spare.
> The other two have far superior production values, as they actually
> *have* sets. Lets not forget New Voyages has Eugene Roddenberry Jr. as
> a consulting producer, a CGI Artist "Max Rem" who actually works for
> Paramount, as well as cameos from other various TOS actors such as
> Eddie Paskey (Mr Leslie) William Windom (Matt Decker) *and* a member
> of the original cast in the 3rd episode (Walter Koenig) written by
> TOS Trek alumni Dorothy Fontana.
"Hidden" is all the worst of Talk Trek. Commodore Porker and a few fan
boys writing stories that are just plain crap.
Oh and how about Captain Squinty? Or known aliens with anatomical
anomolies, such as the Andorian.
Love the bloopers. Note: The whole fucking show is a blooper. Bloopers
are funny if you have quality actors and they muff it. But, to have
shit for talent and they muff it, bloopers just show the truth to the
'vanity project'.
No writers, production, or actors in hollywood to bollywood are in
danger of losing a job to any of these people.
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| Re: Better Trek Fan-fic: Star Trek Hidden Frontier [message #178145 ] |
Mo, 05 Dezember 2005 08:21 |
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"AKAHIGE" <a_k.ayhni_g-e [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9722EAFC018B4AISCNW [at] 69.28.173.186...
> "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in
> news:vNPkf.41545$ki.394 [at] pd7tw2no:
>
> > "Neon Knight" <knightofneon [at] spamex.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9722B746B78E019knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
> >> "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in
> >> news:xlLkf.43838$Eq5.33086 [at] pd7tw1no:
> >>
> >> > You are kidding right? It's absolutely abysmal.
> >>
> >> I only watched the one episode, from "Season Six." The reason for
> >> that is when I went to check out the episodes, there was a
> >> recommendation from one of the creators to watch that episode first
> >> (because they've gotten better?)
> >>
> >> I'll say it again, while the acting wasn't "movie quality" it was a
> >> hell of alot better than the other 2 Fan-fic attempts. Even the whale
> >> was a better actor then Captain Elvis or Garrovick.
> > <snip>
> >
> > ....and to quote McCoy, "In a pig's eye!" Say what ya want about the
> > acting, I think it's about the same but New Frontiers suffers from
> > *extremely* poor casting.(some teenager playing a "captain" while
> > obviously older persons are cast in supporting roles) It constantly
> > looks like a TNG Trekkies worst (or best) wet dream, too much happing
> > all at one (with the FX) and tecnobabble to spare.
> > The other two have far superior production values, as they actually
> > *have* sets. Lets not forget New Voyages has Eugene Roddenberry Jr. as
> > a consulting producer, a CGI Artist "Max Rem" who actually works for
> > Paramount, as well as cameos from other various TOS actors such as
> > Eddie Paskey (Mr Leslie) William Windom (Matt Decker) *and* a member
> > of the original cast in the 3rd episode (Walter Koenig) written by
> > TOS Trek alumni Dorothy Fontana.
>
> "Hidden" is all the worst of Talk Trek. Commodore Porker and a few fan
> boys writing stories that are just plain crap.
>
> Oh and how about Captain Squinty? Or known aliens with anatomical
> anomolies, such as the Andorian.
>
> Love the bloopers. Note: The whole fucking show is a blooper. Bloopers
> are funny if you have quality actors and they muff it. But, to have
> shit for talent and they muff it, bloopers just show the truth to the
> 'vanity project'.
>
> No writers, production, or actors in hollywood to bollywood are in
> danger of losing a job to any of these people.
oh good another example of one that just doesn't get it.... gosh you're so
smart.....
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: Better Trek Fan-fic: Star Trek Hidden Frontier [message #179961 ] |
Do, 08 Dezember 2005 22:59 |
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"Neon Knight" <knightofneon [at] spamex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9722AF2C7848619knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
> Star Trek: Hidden Frontier, set in the TNG era, seems to have better
> acting than the Captain Elvis or the Exeter series. I watched the
> episode "Countermeasures" - not too bad. It does solve one mystery, as
> far as what happened to one of the whales (Gracie) from ST:IV. She's now
> a commodore on one of the ships. Jesus, I'll bet they had to increase
> the size of the turbolifts just to cart her fat ass around.
Try the second episode (especially part 1) of Exeter. The acting shown on
screen has improved dramatically, I really enjoyed watching the teaser and
part 1. When Cutty shrugs to the captain after 'or forced to' is incredibly
casually, - and therefore, realistically - delivered. Same when the captain
ponders the ship's fate, at the end of part 1, should #1 screw up. Very
real delivery, I thought.
And, of course, Exeter ep II's TOS recreation of the sets are pretty much
drool city. An engineering section! A real conference room! And the final
shot of the teaser is great.
I wasn't impressed with ep I but ep II has been very, very enjoyable so far,
with lots of TOS re-enactment eye candy (and unlike B&B's TOS recreations, a
(so far) solid plot line to back up the reason we're seeing it in the first
place)
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| Re: Better Trek Fan-fic: Star Trek Hidden Frontier [message #180021 ] |
So, 11 Dezember 2005 16:49 |
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"Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:xlLkf.43838$Eq5.33086 [at] pd7tw1no...
>
> You are kidding right? It's absolutely abysmal. It's exactly those kind of
> people that put the geek in trek. I defiantly rather stick with Starship
> Exeter or New Voyages.
>
> http://www.starshipexeter.com/
> http://www.newvoyages.com/
>
The reason I have never been to a Star Trek convention, and will never go to
one. Not so much that I have anything against Star Trek fans who take
things a little too seriously, I just don't like them. I like trains, but I
don't dress up like a train conductor and walk around .... in public. :-)
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