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Science Fiction » alt.startrek » TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard
TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #175602] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 03:24
Numan  
Hell yea! I'm up for it as long as it is for the "honorable" retirement
party he deserves.and if they let us see the freaking Titan.

http://www.trektoday.com/news/011205_01.shtml
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #175605 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 04:45
bg  
It would be nice if they could use it as a launching pad for a STAR TREK:
TITAN series, with Riker at the helm!

"Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:WfOjf.28588$Zv5.28524 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> Hell yea! I'm up for it as long as it is for the "honorable" retirement
> party he deserves.and if they let us see the freaking Titan.
>
> http://www.trektoday.com/news/011205_01.shtml
>
>
>
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #175606 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 11:17
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #175607 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 12:40
Jaxtraw  
"Neon Knight" <knightofneon [at] spamex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97202B946B93219knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
> "Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> news:WfOjf.28588$Zv5.28524 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:
>
> > Hell yea! I'm up for it as long as it is for the "honorable"
> > retirement party he deserves.and if they let us see the freaking
> > Titan.
>
> The freaking Titan design SUCKS! Looks like a turd with nacelles.
>
> http://www.simonsays.com/content/feature.cfm?sid=44&feat ure_id=4347

There's too much of that fiddly surface detail on pretty much all the modern
designs. The Ent-E looks like the designer got bored and scribed it with
Aztec markings. I wish they'd get back to the clean, elegant simplicity of
the NCC-1701 refit (ST-TMP). That'll never look out of date.

Can't say I'm muchly keen on the nacelles being on the bottom either. Maybe
they could just turn the model upside down, like they did with the Reliant.

Ian

--
www.jaxtrawstudios.com
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Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #175608 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 12:51
Jaxtraw  
"Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:WfOjf.28588$Zv5.28524 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> Hell yea! I'm up for it as long as it is for the "honorable" retirement
> party he deserves.and if they let us see the freaking Titan.
>
> http://www.trektoday.com/news/011205_01.shtml
>
>

I'd prefer one without him. I think over the course of the movies they've
wrecked the character- particularly with the feeble conclusion to Nemesis. I
simply don't have any respect for the character of Picard any more. Let's
have a movie with a captain Riker (so the writer doesn't have the usual
dilemma of what to do with him because Picard has to be "the star"), with
some proper screen time for the rest of the principals (Worf, La Forge,
Troi, Crusher) and please, not a single appearance of the tiresome fecking
android, in *any* incarnation.

Ian
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178005 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 15:08
Citizen Toxie  
Or rather Riker at the buffet. In Nemesis he was fatter than ever.

"bg" <bg [at] microserf.emp> wrote in message
news:orPjf.3402$Hk1.3295 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> It would be nice if they could use it as a launching pad for a STAR TREK:
> TITAN series, with Riker at the helm!
>
> "Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:WfOjf.28588$Zv5.28524 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>> Hell yea! I'm up for it as long as it is for the "honorable" retirement
>> party he deserves.and if they let us see the freaking Titan.
>>
>> http://www.trektoday.com/news/011205_01.shtml
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178006 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 16:55
Captain Kundalini  
Quit whining! It keeps with the basic design of the other starships. And you
haven't even had a look at the inside of it yet.

"Neon Knight" <knightofneon [at] spamex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97202B946B93219knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
> "Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> news:WfOjf.28588$Zv5.28524 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:
>
>> Hell yea! I'm up for it as long as it is for the "honorable"
>> retirement party he deserves.and if they let us see the freaking
>> Titan.
>
> The freaking Titan design SUCKS! Looks like a turd with nacelles.
>
> http://www.simonsays.com/content/feature.cfm?sid=44&feat ure_id=4347
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178007 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 17:36
ING  
<snip>


........and please, not a single appearance of the tiresome fecking
> android, in *any* incarnation.
>
> Ian


I'm REALLY worried about this after the last movie. They left that loophole
there to bring back Data (even after they killed him off) with that retard
brother of his. PLEASE! NOOOOOOOO!
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178010 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 18:49
CheneysHeartIs  
Jaxtraw wrote:
> "Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:WfOjf.28588$Zv5.28524 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> > Hell yea! I'm up for it as long as it is for the "honorable" retirement
> > party he deserves.and if they let us see the freaking Titan.
> >
> > http://www.trektoday.com/news/011205_01.shtml
> >
> >
>
> I'd prefer one without him. I think over the course of the movies they've
> wrecked the character- particularly with the feeble conclusion to Nemesis. I
> simply don't have any respect for the character of Picard any more. Let's
> have a movie with a captain Riker (so the writer doesn't have the usual
> dilemma of what to do with him because Picard has to be "the star"), with
> some proper screen time for the rest of the principals (Worf, La Forge,
> Troi, Crusher) and please, not a single appearance of the tiresome fecking
> android, in *any* incarnation.
>

Yeah, what he said. My sentiments exactly.

If Paramount had any brains rattling around in there, they'd do a DS9
t.v. movie for sweeps. The actors would be cheap, most of the sets
aren't rocket science (you only show a small part of the promenade),
and apart from the ratings bump the DVD sales would more than pay for
the cost of production.

If Viacom wants to stump up the funding, I'm ready to be called "Mr.
Producer" ;]

"Okay Avery, you're going to be in command of a ship called Hawk..."


Bo Raxo
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178017 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 19:54
Numan  
"bg" <bg [at] microserf.emp> wrote in message
news:orPjf.3402$Hk1.3295 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> It would be nice if they could use it as a launching pad for a STAR TREK:
> TITAN series, with Riker at the helm!

I'd be up for that too. As long as Riker commands like
Picard in that he stays on the ship most of the time and
lets the younger people be the away team. The Captain
would NEVER be the first one in.

It grates on me that the PTB don't have a military expert
on the set telling them a bit of military stategy.

Perfect Example: When Riker and co started trying to
repel Shinzon's henchmen in the halls of the Ent-E. There
was ZERO strategy used. Not only did he not say anything to
his guys and gals along the lines of, "You go this way and I'll go
that way", he ran in front of his suppressive fire! Holy crap!
That falls on the shoulder of the director in my book. You
don't have to know anything about tactics but you should
have someone else standing by that does.
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178018 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 19:56
Numan  
"Citizen Toxie" <givetheword [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11p0lb79el1kj26 [at] corp.supernews.com...
> Or rather Riker at the buffet. In Nemesis he was fatter than ever.

Well, Marina Sirtis said that he had lost quite a bit of weight for the
series finale of Star Trek: Enterprise. I thought they both looked pretty
good.
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178019 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 20:05
Numan  
"Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
news:439031a6$0$349$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
> "Neon Knight" <knightofneon [at] spamex.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns97202B946B93219knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
>> "Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in
>> news:WfOjf.28588$Zv5.28524 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:
>>
>> > Hell yea! I'm up for it as long as it is for the "honorable"
>> > retirement party he deserves.and if they let us see the freaking
>> > Titan.
>>
>> The freaking Titan design SUCKS! Looks like a turd with nacelles.
>>
>> http://www.simonsays.com/content/feature.cfm?sid=44&feat ure_id=4347
>
> There's too much of that fiddly surface detail on pretty much all the
> modern
> designs. The Ent-E looks like the designer got bored and scribed it with
> Aztec markings. I wish they'd get back to the clean, elegant simplicity of
> the NCC-1701 refit (ST-TMP). That'll never look out of date.
>
> Can't say I'm muchly keen on the nacelles being on the bottom either.
> Maybe
> they could just turn the model upside down, like they did with the
> Reliant.
>
> Ian

I agree. My favorite ship was the Ent-Refit/Ent-A. I loved the beauty shots.
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178020 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 20:14
Numan  
"Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
news:4390342a$0$343$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
> "Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:WfOjf.28588$Zv5.28524 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>> Hell yea! I'm up for it as long as it is for the "honorable" retirement
>> party he deserves.and if they let us see the freaking Titan.
>>
>> http://www.trektoday.com/news/011205_01.shtml
>>
>>
>
> I'd prefer one without him. I think over the course of the movies they've
> wrecked the character- particularly with the feeble conclusion to Nemesis.
> I
> simply don't have any respect for the character of Picard any more. Let's
> have a movie with a captain Riker (so the writer doesn't have the usual
> dilemma of what to do with him because Picard has to be "the star"), with
> some proper screen time for the rest of the principals (Worf, La Forge,
> Troi, Crusher) and please, not a single appearance of the tiresome fecking
> android, in *any* incarnation.
>
> Ian

They started Nemesis with the wedding last time. This time
they could start with his retirement party. He really deserves
one. Especially if you go back and watch the TNG episodes
again. I honestly think he is one of the most important reasons
why TNG flew and wasn't constantly compared to TOS. He
wasn't like Kirk. Or have the next movie end with it. Either
way it really is closure we needed from the last movie.

Then they could have him move to Earth so he can finally
"DO" Beverly on a regular basis.

I agree with you on B4. He would ruin it. Maybe they could
go to a Data statue unvailing at StarFleet HQ.
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178021 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 20:15
Numan  
"ING" <rgdfhsdfg [at] google.com> wrote in message
news:QJ_jf.2686$fO5.2550 [at] newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
>
> <snip>
>
>
> .......and please, not a single appearance of the tiresome fecking
>> android, in *any* incarnation.
>>
>> Ian
>
>
> I'm REALLY worried about this after the last movie. They left that
> loophole there to bring back Data (even after they killed him off) with
> that retard brother of his. PLEASE! NOOOOOOOO!

That really would be a slap in the face. Let me join you, "Noooooooo B4!"
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178022 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 20:21
Numan  
<CheneysHeartIs [at] deathsdoor.com> wrote in message
news:1133545740.769258.200220 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>> I'd prefer one without him. I think over the course of the movies they've
>> wrecked the character- particularly with the feeble conclusion to
>> Nemesis. I
>> simply don't have any respect for the character of Picard any more. Let's
>> have a movie with a captain Riker (so the writer doesn't have the usual
>> dilemma of what to do with him because Picard has to be "the star"), with
>> some proper screen time for the rest of the principals (Worf, La Forge,
>> Troi, Crusher) and please, not a single appearance of the tiresome
>> fecking
>> android, in *any* incarnation.
>>
>
> Yeah, what he said. My sentiments exactly.
>
> If Paramount had any brains rattling around in there, they'd do a DS9
> t.v. movie for sweeps. The actors would be cheap, most of the sets
> aren't rocket science (you only show a small part of the promenade),
> and apart from the ratings bump the DVD sales would more than pay for
> the cost of production.
>
> If Viacom wants to stump up the funding, I'm ready to be called "Mr.
> Producer" ;]
>
> "Okay Avery, you're going to be in command of a ship called Hawk..."
>
>
> Bo Raxo

But how would you get all the characters worked in since they all went
their separate ways? And, I don't think the actors would be quite as
cheap as you think. Bashir has a new movie, Brooks is an advocate now,
Meanie has regular work. Odo has a series I think.

It would be cool if Sisco brought Jadzia back with him from the Netherworld.
For obvious reasons. Yea, I'm biased. Oh, please include Seven somehow.
We need to see her on the big screen. ;-)
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178023 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 20:43
Al Smith  
> I'd prefer one without him. I think over the course of the movies they've
> wrecked the character- particularly with the feeble conclusion to Nemesis. I
> simply don't have any respect for the character of Picard any more. Let's
> have a movie with a captain Riker (so the writer doesn't have the usual
> dilemma of what to do with him because Picard has to be "the star"), with
> some proper screen time for the rest of the principals (Worf, La Forge,
> Troi, Crusher) and please, not a single appearance of the tiresome fecking
> android, in *any* incarnation.
>
> Ian

Finally, someone who knows what he's talking about. If Picard is
there, he will dominate Riker. I'm sick of the android, also. Deep
six Data. Get some new blood on the bridge. Another Klingon. An
Andorian based on the "Enterprise" Andorians. Maybe a strong
female first officer for Riker, who will take him away from Troi.
And get Riker to the fat farm before the movie is shot.
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178027 ] Fr, 02 Dezember 2005 20:56
Al Smith  
>>I'd prefer one without him. I think over the course of the movies they've
>>> wrecked the character- particularly with the feeble conclusion to Nemesis.
>>> I
>>> simply don't have any respect for the character of Picard any more. Let's
>>> have a movie with a captain Riker (so the writer doesn't have the usual
>>> dilemma of what to do with him because Picard has to be "the star"), with
>>> some proper screen time for the rest of the principals (Worf, La Forge,
>>> Troi, Crusher) and please, not a single appearance of the tiresome fecking
>>> android, in *any* incarnation.
>>>
>>> Ian
>
>
> They started Nemesis with the wedding last time. This time
> they could start with his retirement party. He really deserves
> one. Especially if you go back and watch the TNG episodes
> again. I honestly think he is one of the most important reasons
> why TNG flew and wasn't constantly compared to TOS. He
> wasn't like Kirk. Or have the next movie end with it. Either
> way it really is closure we needed from the last movie.
>
> Then they could have him move to Earth so he can finally
> "DO" Beverly on a regular basis.
>
> I agree with you on B4. He would ruin it. Maybe they could
> go to a Data statue unvailing at StarFleet HQ.

I had an eerie premonition. The scene is Doctor Crusher and B4 in
Sick Bay. She is trying to reassure B4 about his place on Enterprise.

-----------

B4: "I'm not smart, like Data. Our father, Dr. Soong, didn't build
me right. He made me so that I'll get old. See?" (shows Crucher
his wrinkles)

Crusher: "Don't say that, B4. He gave you something Data struggled
all his life to achieve. He gave you human emotions."

B4: (wonderingly) "He did?"

Crusher: "Yes, he did. You can be taught to be smart. I'll help you."

Riker: (appearing in the doorway) "We'll all help you, B4."

----------

Awk! Uck! Gag me with a spoon!
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178031 ] Sa, 03 Dezember 2005 00:40
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178035 ] Sa, 03 Dezember 2005 01:32
Numan  
"Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
news:Wt1kf.132996$Ph4.4072119 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>> I'd prefer one without him. I think over the course of the movies they've
>> wrecked the character- particularly with the feeble conclusion to
>> Nemesis. I
>> simply don't have any respect for the character of Picard any more. Let's
>> have a movie with a captain Riker (so the writer doesn't have the usual
>> dilemma of what to do with him because Picard has to be "the star"), with
>> some proper screen time for the rest of the principals (Worf, La Forge,
>> Troi, Crusher) and please, not a single appearance of the tiresome
>> fecking
>> android, in *any* incarnation.
>>
>> Ian
>
> Finally, someone who knows what he's talking about. If Picard is there, he
> will dominate Riker. I'm sick of the android, also. Deep six Data. Get
> some new blood on the bridge. Another Klingon. An Andorian based on the
> "Enterprise" Andorians. Maybe a strong female first officer for Riker, who
> will take him away from Troi. And get Riker to the fat farm before the
> movie is shot.

But Deanna will know her or even his intentions WAY before
anything can happen and stick her foot up whoever's ass needs
it. Movie Troi seems a bit more of a "take no shit" kind of
person compared to the very "fuckable", low neckline, dress
wearing Troi.
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178036 ] Sa, 03 Dezember 2005 02:02
Jaxtraw  
"Neon Knight" <knightofneon [at] spamex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9720B3BC6353219knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
> "Captain Kundalini" <captkundalini [at] austin.rr.com> wrote in
> news:X7_jf.21021$Au1.16287 [at] tornado.texas.rr.com:
>
> > Quit whining! It keeps with the basic design of the other starships.
> > And you haven't even had a look at the inside of it yet.
>
> Who wants to look inside a giant turd?

A giant dung beetle?

Ian
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178037 ] Sa, 03 Dezember 2005 02:05
Jaxtraw  
"Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
> news:Wt1kf.132996$Ph4.4072119 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> >> I'd prefer one without him. I think over the course of the movies
they've
> >> wrecked the character- particularly with the feeble conclusion to
> >> Nemesis. I
> >> simply don't have any respect for the character of Picard any more.
Let's
> >> have a movie with a captain Riker (so the writer doesn't have the usual
> >> dilemma of what to do with him because Picard has to be "the star"),
with
> >> some proper screen time for the rest of the principals (Worf, La Forge,
> >> Troi, Crusher) and please, not a single appearance of the tiresome
> >> fecking
> >> android, in *any* incarnation.
> >>
> >> Ian
> >
> > Finally, someone who knows what he's talking about. If Picard is there,
he
> > will dominate Riker. I'm sick of the android, also. Deep six Data. Get
> > some new blood on the bridge. Another Klingon. An Andorian based on the
> > "Enterprise" Andorians. Maybe a strong female first officer for Riker,
who
> > will take him away from Troi. And get Riker to the fat farm before the
> > movie is shot.
>
> But Deanna will know her or even his intentions WAY before
> anything can happen and stick her foot up whoever's ass needs
> it. Movie Troi seems a bit more of a "take no shit" kind of
> person compared to the very "fuckable", low neckline, dress
> wearing Troi.
>
>

Yeah. We never did really get much of the Betazoid "sexually permissive
culture" angle did we? I still think the funniest thing in the world is that
Nemesis reveals that these wild hedonists have sex through a *sheet*.
Apparently contraception in the future is 50% polyester/cotton.

Ian
--
www.jaxtrawstudios.com
science fiction sans apparel
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178038 ] Sa, 03 Dezember 2005 02:15
Jaxtraw  
"Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
> news:439031a6$0$349$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
> > "Neon Knight" <knightofneon [at] spamex.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns97202B946B93219knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
> >> "Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> >> news:WfOjf.28588$Zv5.28524 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:
> >>
> >> > Hell yea! I'm up for it as long as it is for the "honorable"
> >> > retirement party he deserves.and if they let us see the freaking
> >> > Titan.
> >>
> >> The freaking Titan design SUCKS! Looks like a turd with nacelles.
> >>
> >> http://www.simonsays.com/content/feature.cfm?sid=44&feat ure_id=4347
> >
> > There's too much of that fiddly surface detail on pretty much all the
> > modern
> > designs. The Ent-E looks like the designer got bored and scribed it with
> > Aztec markings. I wish they'd get back to the clean, elegant simplicity
of
> > the NCC-1701 refit (ST-TMP). That'll never look out of date.
> >
> > Can't say I'm muchly keen on the nacelles being on the bottom either.
> > Maybe
> > they could just turn the model upside down, like they did with the
> > Reliant.
> >
> > Ian
>
> I agree. My favorite ship was the Ent-Refit/Ent-A. I loved the beauty
shots.
>
>

I can never get enough of that ship. One of the biggest errors of TMP was
that they didn't put it through its paces. It spends most of the film either
in dock or getting hauled about by tractor beams and doesn't fire a shot.
They should have done the ending where the Klingons from the start of the
movie and everything else get de-digitised when V'ger disappears, and Kirk
and the Enterprise find themselves facing three *very* angry Klingon
captains. "Hilarity", and a saucer separation, ensues. Apparently it was
scrapped on the basis it might be exciting or something.

Anyway, the refit was a beautiful design and has certainly stood the test of
time. Ample proof that you don't need bits of model kits (or the modern CG
equivalent) to make a ship look interesting and "real". Personally, I think
it was the most "real" looking of any of the ships. The original (TOS) is a
bit *too* lacking in detail (but then it was for TV screens the size of a
tobacco tin) and the whirly nacelle lights do look a bit hokey these days.
The later ships (to my old eyes) never quite seem massive and solid.

But the 1701-refit, said Goldilocks, is *just right*.

Ian

--
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Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178039 ] Sa, 03 Dezember 2005 02:12
Al Smith  
>>Finally, someone who knows what he's talking about. If Picard is there, he
>>> will dominate Riker. I'm sick of the android, also. Deep six Data. Get
>>> some new blood on the bridge. Another Klingon. An Andorian based on the
>>> "Enterprise" Andorians. Maybe a strong female first officer for Riker, who
>>> will take him away from Troi. And get Riker to the fat farm before the
>>> movie is shot.
>
>
> But Deanna will know her or even his intentions WAY before
> anything can happen and stick her foot up whoever's ass needs
> it. Movie Troi seems a bit more of a "take no shit" kind of
> person compared to the very "fuckable", low neckline, dress
> wearing Troi.

Sure, I like Deanna, I'd let her find out what the other officer
was trying to do and have her fight to keep her man. Maybe in a
literal sense -- catfight! The other female officer should
probably be a Bajoran, only because they are so full of themselves.
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178049 ] Sa, 03 Dezember 2005 03:18
Kweeg  
"Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
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> "Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:oW0kf.28743$Zv5.12950 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> >
> > "Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
> > news:439031a6$0$349$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
> > > "Neon Knight" <knightofneon [at] spamex.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Xns97202B946B93219knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
> > >> "Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> > >> news:WfOjf.28588$Zv5.28524 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:
> > >>
> > >> > Hell yea! I'm up for it as long as it is for the "honorable"
> > >> > retirement party he deserves.and if they let us see the freaking
> > >> > Titan.
> > >>
> > >> The freaking Titan design SUCKS! Looks like a turd with nacelles.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.simonsays.com/content/feature.cfm?sid=44&feat ure_id=4347
> > >
> > > There's too much of that fiddly surface detail on pretty much all the
> > > modern
> > > designs. The Ent-E looks like the designer got bored and scribed it
with
> > > Aztec markings. I wish they'd get back to the clean, elegant
simplicity
> of
> > > the NCC-1701 refit (ST-TMP). That'll never look out of date.
> > >
> > > Can't say I'm muchly keen on the nacelles being on the bottom either.
> > > Maybe
> > > they could just turn the model upside down, like they did with the
> > > Reliant.
> > >
> > > Ian
> >
> > I agree. My favorite ship was the Ent-Refit/Ent-A. I loved the beauty
> shots.
> >
> >
>
> I can never get enough of that ship. One of the biggest errors of TMP was
> that they didn't put it through its paces. It spends most of the film
either
> in dock or getting hauled about by tractor beams and doesn't fire a shot.
> They should have done the ending where the Klingons from the start of the
> movie and everything else get de-digitised when V'ger disappears, and Kirk
> and the Enterprise find themselves facing three *very* angry Klingon
> captains. "Hilarity", and a saucer separation, ensues. Apparently it was
> scrapped on the basis it might be exciting or something.

LMAO! Good one!

> Anyway, the refit was a beautiful design and has certainly stood the test
of
> time. Ample proof that you don't need bits of model kits (or the modern CG
> equivalent) to make a ship look interesting and "real". Personally, I
think
> it was the most "real" looking of any of the ships. The original (TOS) is
a
> bit *too* lacking in detail (but then it was for TV screens the size of a
> tobacco tin) and the whirly nacelle lights do look a bit hokey these days.
> The later ships (to my old eyes) never quite seem massive and solid.
>
> But the 1701-refit, said Goldilocks, is *just right*.

I'll give you all except the "whirly nacelle lights do look a bit hokey." My
favourite bit from the Enterprise mirror universe episode, was seeing an
*original* Constitution class in all her glory. Guess there is no need to
tell you my favourite kind of Federation starship. The later ones, however,
blow up better when ya shoot 'em.
--

Qapla'
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Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178051 ] Sa, 03 Dezember 2005 03:54
Jaxtraw  
"Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> "Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
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> > "Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:oW0kf.28743$Zv5.12950 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> > >
> > > "Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
> > > news:439031a6$0$349$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
> > > > "Neon Knight" <knightofneon [at] spamex.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:Xns97202B946B93219knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
> > > >> "Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> > > >> news:WfOjf.28588$Zv5.28524 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hell yea! I'm up for it as long as it is for the "honorable"
> > > >> > retirement party he deserves.and if they let us see the freaking
> > > >> > Titan.
> > > >>
> > > >> The freaking Titan design SUCKS! Looks like a turd with nacelles.
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.simonsays.com/content/feature.cfm?sid=44&feat ure_id=4347
> > > >
> > > > There's too much of that fiddly surface detail on pretty much all
the
> > > > modern
> > > > designs. The Ent-E looks like the designer got bored and scribed it
> with
> > > > Aztec markings. I wish they'd get back to the clean, elegant
> simplicity
> > of
> > > > the NCC-1701 refit (ST-TMP). That'll never look out of date.
> > > >
> > > > Can't say I'm muchly keen on the nacelles being on the bottom
either.
> > > > Maybe
> > > > they could just turn the model upside down, like they did with the
> > > > Reliant.
> > > >
> > > > Ian
> > >
> > > I agree. My favorite ship was the Ent-Refit/Ent-A. I loved the beauty
> > shots.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I can never get enough of that ship. One of the biggest errors of TMP
was
> > that they didn't put it through its paces. It spends most of the film
> either
> > in dock or getting hauled about by tractor beams and doesn't fire a
shot.
> > They should have done the ending where the Klingons from the start of
the
> > movie and everything else get de-digitised when V'ger disappears, and
Kirk
> > and the Enterprise find themselves facing three *very* angry Klingon
> > captains. "Hilarity", and a saucer separation, ensues. Apparently it was
> > scrapped on the basis it might be exciting or something.
>
> LMAO! Good one!
>
> > Anyway, the refit was a beautiful design and has certainly stood the
test
> of
> > time. Ample proof that you don't need bits of model kits (or the modern
CG
> > equivalent) to make a ship look interesting and "real". Personally, I
> think
> > it was the most "real" looking of any of the ships. The original (TOS)
is
> a
> > bit *too* lacking in detail (but then it was for TV screens the size of
a
> > tobacco tin) and the whirly nacelle lights do look a bit hokey these
days.
> > The later ships (to my old eyes) never quite seem massive and solid.
> >
> > But the 1701-refit, said Goldilocks, is *just right*.
>
> I'll give you all except the "whirly nacelle lights do look a bit hokey."
My
> favourite bit from the Enterprise mirror universe episode, was seeing an
> *original* Constitution class in all her glory. Guess there is no need to
> tell you my favourite kind of Federation starship. The later ones,
however,
> blow up better when ya shoot 'em.
> --
>

The original Constitution's a classic and brilliant design. The original
whirly lights look, to modern eyes, too low-tech, but as you say, the MU
defiant looked stunning and the nacelle lihgts didn't let the side down at
all.

I sometimes wonder whether my love of the original Enterprise design is
motivated purely by nostalgia and a displaced loyalty. But I think not so.
The original is elegant and simple (simple in a positive way). Everyone
who's designed starships afterwards has been stuck with trying to create
something similar, but different, so they've never had the freedom to create
something really new. I'm not a particular fan of the Ent-D or the Excelsior
class- the drive sections always look to me too complex in shape, a bit
bloaty, a bit pregnant. They don't have that design elegance. But that's
just me.

Ian
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178053 ] Sa, 03 Dezember 2005 04:33
The Merry Piper  
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 02:54:41 -0000, "Jaxtraw"
<jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote:


>The original Constitution's a classic and brilliant design. The original
>whirly lights look, to modern eyes, too low-tech, but as you say, the MU
>defiant looked stunning and the nacelle lihgts didn't let the side down at
>all.
>
>I sometimes wonder whether my love of the original Enterprise design is
>motivated purely by nostalgia and a displaced loyalty. But I think not so.
>The original is elegant and simple (simple in a positive way). Everyone
>who's designed starships afterwards has been stuck with trying to create
>something similar, but different, so they've never had the freedom to create
>something really new. I'm not a particular fan of the Ent-D or the Excelsior
>class- the drive sections always look to me too complex in shape, a bit
>bloaty, a bit pregnant. They don't have that design elegance. But that's
>just me.

Not just you. Me, too.

--
The Merry Piper
[http://tmpiper.livejournal.com]
If you want to dance, you'll have to pay ... me!
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178063 ] Sa, 03 Dezember 2005 10:48
girlsgonemild  
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:21:31 GMT, "Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>
><CheneysHeartIs [at] deathsdoor.com> wrote in message
>news:1133545740.769258.200220 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>>> I'd prefer one without him. I think over the course of the movies they've
>>> wrecked the character- particularly with the feeble conclusion to
>>> Nemesis. I
>>> simply don't have any respect for the character of Picard any more. Let's
>>> have a movie with a captain Riker (so the writer doesn't have the usual
>>> dilemma of what to do with him because Picard has to be "the star"), with
>>> some proper screen time for the rest of the principals (Worf, La Forge,
>>> Troi, Crusher) and please, not a single appearance of the tiresome
>>> fecking
>>> android, in *any* incarnation.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, what he said. My sentiments exactly.
>>
>> If Paramount had any brains rattling around in there, they'd do a DS9
>> t.v. movie for sweeps. The actors would be cheap, most of the sets
>> aren't rocket science (you only show a small part of the promenade),
>> and apart from the ratings bump the DVD sales would more than pay for
>> the cost of production.
>>
>> If Viacom wants to stump up the funding, I'm ready to be called "Mr.
>> Producer" ;]
>>
>> "Okay Avery, you're going to be in command of a ship called Hawk..."
>>
>>
>> Bo Raxo
>
>But how would you get all the characters worked in since they all went
>their separate ways? And, I don't think the actors would be quite as
>cheap as you think. Bashir has a new movie, Brooks is an advocate now,
>Meanie has regular work. Odo has a series I think.
>
>It would be cool if Sisco brought Jadzia back with him from the Netherworld.
>For obvious reasons. Yea, I'm biased. Oh, please include Seven somehow.
>We need to see her on the big screen. ;-)

In 3D
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178070 ] Sa, 03 Dezember 2005 15:36
Wouter Valentijn  
The Merry Piper wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 02:54:41 -0000, "Jaxtraw"
> <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote:
>
>
>> The original Constitution's a classic and brilliant design. The
>> original whirly lights look, to modern eyes, too low-tech, but as
>> you say, the MU defiant looked stunning and the nacelle lihgts
>> didn't let the side down at all.
>>
>> I sometimes wonder whether my love of the original Enterprise design
>> is motivated purely by nostalgia and a displaced loyalty. But I
>> think not so. The original is elegant and simple (simple in a
>> positive way). Everyone who's designed starships afterwards has been
>> stuck with trying to create something similar, but different, so
>> they've never had the freedom to create something really new. I'm
>> not a particular fan of the Ent-D or the Excelsior class- the drive
>> sections always look to me too complex in shape, a bit bloaty, a bit
>> pregnant. They don't have that design elegance. But that's just me.
>
> Not just you. Me, too.

And me.


--
Wouter Valentijn

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liam=mail

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Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178071 ] Sa, 03 Dezember 2005 16:16
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178078 ] Sa, 03 Dezember 2005 22:12
AKAHIGE  
"bg" <bg [at] microserf.emp> wrote in
news:orPjf.3402$Hk1.3295 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

> It would be nice if they could use it as a launching pad for a STAR
> TREK: TITAN series, with Riker at the helm!
>

Oh, fucking heaven's no. Replace the series of Captain Talksalot with
Captain Icantact Buthaveabeard?

How about a Star Trek: Sluts In Space with the spreadem' twins, Troy and
Crusher? "Is that an alien? Can't...Keep...From...Fucking...Aliens"

Or, Star Trek: Go Nowhere, about students of the academy in space. We see
them go to class with Wesley 'I desperately need a series' Crusher as a
dimensionally challenged professor.

Star Trek: Gin Mill - Each week we go to a new Ten Forward on a different
ship where an affable bar tender cures the Federation of what ails it.

Star Trek: Bellies in Space - Where we bring back Shatner and Nimoy and
merge the two by belly bouncing them at high speed until they become one.
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178080 ] Sa, 03 Dezember 2005 23:45
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178086 ] So, 04 Dezember 2005 00:08
In Through The Out Do[2]  
Riker looked too old to be playing the from that particular episode.
"Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:kN0kf.28740$Zv5.20555 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>
> "Citizen Toxie" <givetheword [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:11p0lb79el1kj26 [at] corp.supernews.com...
>> Or rather Riker at the buffet. In Nemesis he was fatter than ever.
>
> Well, Marina Sirtis said that he had lost quite a bit of weight for the
> series finale of Star Trek: Enterprise. I thought they both looked pretty
> good.
>
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178097 ] So, 04 Dezember 2005 02:38
Al Smith  
> Star Trek: Bellies in Space - Where we bring back Shatner and Nimoy and
> merge the two by belly bouncing them at high speed until they become one.

Wouldn't work. Nimoy doesn't have a belly.
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178098 ] So, 04 Dezember 2005 02:47
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178103 ] So, 04 Dezember 2005 03:58
Bo Raxo  
"Numan" <tbrdmann [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:%81kf.28752$Zv5.1130 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>
> <CheneysHeartIs [at] deathsdoor.com> wrote in message
> news:1133545740.769258.200220 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> I'd prefer one without him. I think over the course of the movies
they've
> >> wrecked the character- particularly with the feeble conclusion to
> >> Nemesis. I
> >> simply don't have any respect for the character of Picard any more.
Let's
> >> have a movie with a captain Riker (so the writer doesn't have the usual
> >> dilemma of what to do with him because Picard has to be "the star"),
with
> >> some proper screen time for the rest of the principals (Worf, La Forge,
> >> Troi, Crusher) and please, not a single appearance of the tiresome
> >> fecking
> >> android, in *any* incarnation.
> >>
> >
> > Yeah, what he said. My sentiments exactly.
> >
> > If Paramount had any brains rattling around in there, they'd do a DS9
> > t.v. movie for sweeps. The actors would be cheap, most of the sets
> > aren't rocket science (you only show a small part of the promenade),
> > and apart from the ratings bump the DVD sales would more than pay for
> > the cost of production.
> >
> > If Viacom wants to stump up the funding, I'm ready to be called "Mr.
> > Producer" ;]
> >
> > "Okay Avery, you're going to be in command of a ship called Hawk..."
> >
> >
> > Bo Raxo
>
> But how would you get all the characters worked in since they all went
> their separate ways?

Every Trek movie has to start with a set of scenes as we get the old band
back together. It's a Trekdition!

>And, I don't think the actors would be quite as
> cheap as you think. Bashir has a new movie, Brooks is an advocate now,
> Meanie has regular work. Odo has a series I think.


Bashir was in a movie, wow, that doesn't mean he isn't available. Brooks
isn't exactly tearing up Hollywood. Meany doesn't have regular work, he is
doing guest appearances here and there - he was affordable enough for Law &
Order - a two part episode! Auberjonois has a series, but you could do it
during summer hiatus, or just not have Odo in the movie (no loss as far as
I'm concerned). Last I checked, Visitor, Lofton, DeBoer, and others were
quite available.

>
> It would be cool if Sisco brought Jadzia back with him from the
Netherworld.
> For obvious reasons. Yea, I'm biased.

And then Jadzia and Ezri have a catfight! And then they start kissing!
And...I think I've spent way too much time watching and thinking about the
Daxs.

>Oh, please include Seven somehow.
> We need to see her on the big screen. ;-)
>

I'm torn on this one. Good actress, stupid character. I guess a nude scene
would decide it for me...


Bo Raxo
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178105 ] So, 04 Dezember 2005 04:04
Bo Raxo  
"Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
news:zF1kf.133007$Ph4.4072256 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>
> I had an eerie premonition. The scene is Doctor Crusher and B4 in
> Sick Bay. She is trying to reassure B4 about his place on Enterprise.
>
> -----------
>
> B4: "I'm not smart, like Data. Our father, Dr. Soong, didn't build
> me right. He made me so that I'll get old. See?" (shows Crucher
> his wrinkles)
>
> Crusher: "Don't say that, B4. He gave you something Data struggled
> all his life to achieve. He gave you human emotions."
>
> B4: (wonderingly) "He did?"
>
> Crusher: "Yes, he did. You can be taught to be smart. I'll help you."
>
> Riker: (appearing in the doorway) "We'll all help you, B4."
>

Then Riker appears, shouldering Riker aside. "Have all of you forgotten how
dangerous Lore turned out to be? As Chief of Security I cannot allow this!"

Riker: "But Worf, I thought you transferred to space station Deep Space 9?"

Worf: "My status has changed. Look for deleted scenes on the DVD to explain
it all."

Riker (puzzled): "Dee vee dee? Is that some kind of Klingon ritual? Look,
Worf..."

Worf: "Enough talk. I must protect the ship." (points phaser at B4)
"Doctor, please step back for your own safety."

Worf fires the phaser; B4 glows, then dissolves as the phaser effect
evaporates.

An awkward silence ensues.

Crusher: "So, uh, Will, poker tonight?"

Riker: "Beverly! I'm a married man now, we can't..."

Crusher: "No, Will, I meant cards, do you want to play cards?"

Riker: "Oh, well, yes, sure. 20:00 hours. Will you be joining us, Mr.
Worf?"

Worf: "It would be dishonorable for me to not take your money."

Fade to black...


Bo Raxo
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178110 ] So, 04 Dezember 2005 06:59
Numan  
"AKAHIGE" <a_k.ayhni_g-e [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns972186541DA51AISCNW [at] 69.28.173.186...
> "bg" <bg [at] microserf.emp> wrote in
> news:orPjf.3402$Hk1.3295 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
>> It would be nice if they could use it as a launching pad for a STAR
>> TREK: TITAN series, with Riker at the helm!
>>
>
> Oh, fucking heaven's no. Replace the series of Captain Talksalot with
> Captain Icantact Buthaveabeard?
>
> How about a Star Trek: Sluts In Space with the spreadem' twins, Troy and
> Crusher? "Is that an alien? Can't...Keep...From...Fucking...Aliens"
>
> Or, Star Trek: Go Nowhere, about students of the academy in space. We see
> them go to class with Wesley 'I desperately need a series' Crusher as a
> dimensionally challenged professor.
>
> Star Trek: Gin Mill - Each week we go to a new Ten Forward on a different
> ship where an affable bar tender cures the Federation of what ails it.
>
> Star Trek: Bellies in Space - Where we bring back Shatner and Nimoy and
> merge the two by belly bouncing them at high speed until they become one.

I like the last one the best!
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178112 ] So, 04 Dezember 2005 07:09
Numan  
"Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
news:4390f0aa$0$351$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...

> Anyway, the refit was a beautiful design and has certainly stood the test
> of
> time. Ample proof that you don't need bits of model kits (or the modern CG
> equivalent) to make a ship look interesting and "real". Personally, I
> think
> it was the most "real" looking of any of the ships. The original (TOS) is
> a
> bit *too* lacking in detail (but then it was for TV screens the size of a
> tobacco tin) and the whirly nacelle lights do look a bit hokey these days.
> The later ships (to my old eyes) never quite seem massive and solid.
>
> But the 1701-refit, said Goldilocks, is *just right*.
>
> Ian

The NX-01 never did look "solid" or real. It always looked like
animation to me.
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178113 ] So, 04 Dezember 2005 07:35
Numan  
<girlsgonemild [at] tempur.nul> wrote in message
news:deq2p1tegpoq0jm2ofoi67von2i88853ls [at] 4ax.com...
>>It would be cool if Sisco brought Jadzia back with him from the
>>Netherworld.
>>For obvious reasons. Yea, I'm biased. Oh, please include Seven somehow.
>>We need to see her on the big screen. ;-)
>
> In 3D

Yea!
Re: TrekToday - Stewart Says Paramount May Bring Back Picard [message #178114 ] So, 04 Dezember 2005 07:41
Numan  
"Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
news:4390ee67$0$23286$db0fefd9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...

> Yeah. We never did really get much of the Betazoid "sexually permissive
> culture" angle did we? I still think the funniest thing in the world is
> that
> Nemesis reveals that these wild hedonists have sex through a *sheet*.
> Apparently contraception in the future is 50% polyester/cotton.
>
> Ian

The sexually permissive culture isn't ringing a bell. Was that from TNG?
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