| Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1646] |
Mi, 20 April 2005 16:33 |
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My first refund has been completed from TrekUnited.
I said I would post on my status.
Many claimed that TrekUnited was a scam and even when documentation
was provided to 3rd party reporters to investigate and they said that
it was legit, continued to lie about trekunited.
I made 3 donations over a month or so. So I should be a good gauge.
The first one is now refunded and completed minus 3%. This is actually
less then the 5% agreed to. So I got more back than agreed to in the
contract.
Info on why that is here........
http://www.trekfansunited.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3856 &hl=
I will post status on the remaining two donations I made as they come
in.
They are working their butts off to get everything back to folks.
There are thousands of donors.
I think it is important that people know for FACT it was no scam.
Yes, I wouldnt mind an apology from those that said it was.
Aint holdin' my breath on that one though!
www.trekunited.com
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1653 ] |
Mi, 20 April 2005 23:26 |
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Still a scam
"Mutts" <none [at] none.com> wrote in message
news:78pc61t2qf1ef7l9672b167l7tlhm219o8 [at] 4ax.com...
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> My first refund has been completed from TrekUnited.
> I said I would post on my status.
> Many claimed that TrekUnited was a scam and even when documentation
> was provided to 3rd party reporters to investigate and they said that
> it was legit, continued to lie about trekunited.
>
> I made 3 donations over a month or so. So I should be a good gauge.
>
> The first one is now refunded and completed minus 3%. This is actually
> less then the 5% agreed to. So I got more back than agreed to in the
> contract.
>
> Info on why that is here........
> http://www.trekfansunited.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3856 &hl=
>
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> I will post status on the remaining two donations I made as they come
> in.
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> They are working their butts off to get everything back to folks.
> There are thousands of donors.
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> I think it is important that people know for FACT it was no scam.
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> Yes, I wouldnt mind an apology from those that said it was.
> Aint holdin' my breath on that one though!
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> www.trekunited.com
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1654 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 00:09 |
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"Meatwad" <dfkdjds [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uOz9e.12757$44.11420 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Still a scam
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How?
> "Mutts" <none [at] none.com> wrote in message
> news:78pc61t2qf1ef7l9672b167l7tlhm219o8 [at] 4ax.com...
> >
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> > My first refund has been completed from TrekUnited.
> > I said I would post on my status.
> > Many claimed that TrekUnited was a scam and even when documentation
> > was provided to 3rd party reporters to investigate and they said that
> > it was legit, continued to lie about trekunited.
> >
> > I made 3 donations over a month or so. So I should be a good gauge.
> >
> > The first one is now refunded and completed minus 3%. This is actually
> > less then the 5% agreed to. So I got more back than agreed to in the
> > contract.
> >
> > Info on why that is here........
> > http://www.trekfansunited.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3856 &hl=
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> > I will post status on the remaining two donations I made as they come
> > in.
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> > They are working their butts off to get everything back to folks.
> > There are thousands of donors.
> >
> > I think it is important that people know for FACT it was no scam.
> >
> > Yes, I wouldnt mind an apology from those that said it was.
> > Aint holdin' my breath on that one though!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > www.trekunited.com
> >
>
>
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1655 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 00:25 |
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"Meatwad" <dfkdjds [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uOz9e.12757$44.11420 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Still a scam
Still an idiot.
--
Qa ' PLONK
Kweeg
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1656 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 00:30 |
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Just is
"Brenda" <invalid [at] invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:d463t5.3bs.1 [at] news.evilcabal.org...
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> "Meatwad" <dfkdjds [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uOz9e.12757$44.11420 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> Still a scam
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> How?
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>> "Mutts" <none [at] none.com> wrote in message
>> news:78pc61t2qf1ef7l9672b167l7tlhm219o8 [at] 4ax.com...
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>> > My first refund has been completed from TrekUnited.
>> > I said I would post on my status.
>> > Many claimed that TrekUnited was a scam and even when documentation
>> > was provided to 3rd party reporters to investigate and they said that
>> > it was legit, continued to lie about trekunited.
>> >
>> > I made 3 donations over a month or so. So I should be a good gauge.
>> >
>> > The first one is now refunded and completed minus 3%. This is actually
>> > less then the 5% agreed to. So I got more back than agreed to in the
>> > contract.
>> >
>> > Info on why that is here........
>> > http://www.trekfansunited.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3856 &hl=
>> >
>> >
>> > I will post status on the remaining two donations I made as they come
>> > in.
>> >
>> > They are working their butts off to get everything back to folks.
>> > There are thousands of donors.
>> >
>> > I think it is important that people know for FACT it was no scam.
>> >
>> > Yes, I wouldnt mind an apology from those that said it was.
>> > Aint holdin' my breath on that one though!
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>> > www.trekunited.com
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1657 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 01:53 |
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> I think it is important that people know for FACT it was no scam.
Yes, that doesn't surprise me. I said all along i didn't think it was a
scam.
> Yes, I wouldnt mind an apology from those that said it was.
> Aint holdin' my breath on that one though!
On behalf of all those who falsely called it a scam - i apologize to Mutts.
--
"if federal judges have the final word over its meaning,
the Constitution would be a mere thing of wax in the hands
of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form
they please".
- Thomas Jefferson
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1658 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 02:03 |
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:33:32 -0700, Mutts <none [at] none.com> wrote:
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>My first refund has been completed from TrekUnited.
Do I get a refund for all the hours I wasted watching this StarDreck.
I figure they owe me $600.
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1659 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 02:07 |
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<DreadPirateSue [at] the.jolly.roger> wrote in message
news:t9rd611ia3uu74e6942ae9trq2ga1l34b5 [at] 4ax.com...
Go on dork, prove me right again and post with another nic, loser!
Thirteen in seven days.
Whatta sad pathetic life you must have to constantly troll newsgroups having
to constantly change you nic because so many people have killfiled you. I
and everyone else are laughing at you. No real life friends and no friends
on Usenet. Seriously kill yourself, no one will notice or care and we all
could do with the laugh.
--
Kweeg
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1663 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 04:28 |
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Meatwad wrote:
> Still a scam
>
If it was a scam they wouldn't be giving the money back. The real problem
with TrekUnited was they had no clue how to do public relations effectively.
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1664 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 04:29 |
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DreadPirateSue [at] the.jolly.roger wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:33:32 -0700, Mutts <none [at] none.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >My first refund has been completed from TrekUnited.
>
> Do I get a refund for all the hours I wasted watching this StarDreck.
> I figure they owe me $600.
That's your fault. no one put a gun to your head.
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1665 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 05:19 |
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:29:38 -0700, David B <bothecat3 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>DreadPirateSue [at] the.jolly.roger wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:33:32 -0700, Mutts <none [at] none.com> wrote:
>>
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>> >
>> >My first refund has been completed from TrekUnited.
>>
>> Do I get a refund for all the hours I wasted watching this StarDreck.
>> I figure they owe me $600.
>
>That's your fault. no one put a gun to your head.
>
It was a phase pistol.
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1666 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 06:13 |
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In article <42670FE8.C1EA9D0C [at] hotmail.com>, David B
<bothecat3 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> Meatwad wrote:
>
> > Still a scam
>
> If it was a scam they wouldn't be giving the money back. The real problem
> with TrekUnited was they had no clue how to do public relations effectively.
OK, they are returning money (supposedly, to you) - they get ONE bonus
point.
BUT, how much was removed in "fees" and what's happening with the huge
pile of bank interest that the (again, supposed) $3million would have
accumulated??
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1667 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 07:41 |
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:13:07 +1200, Anybody
<anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
>In article <42670FE8.C1EA9D0C [at] hotmail.com>, David B
><bothecat3 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Meatwad wrote:
>>
>> > Still a scam
>>
>> If it was a scam they wouldn't be giving the money back. The real problem
>> with TrekUnited was they had no clue how to do public relations effectively.
>
>OK, they are returning money (supposedly, to you) - they get ONE bonus
>point.
>
>BUT, how much was removed in "fees" and what's happening with the huge
>pile of bank interest that the (again, supposed) $3million would have
>accumulated??
non-interest bearing account if I recall properly
www.trekunited.com
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1668 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 07:46 |
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Well that was not very smart, was it?
"Mutts" <none [at] none.com> wrote in message
news:4ree61lsovkhhu8oe95977n7oe7kfv4k86 [at] 4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:13:07 +1200, Anybody
> <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <42670FE8.C1EA9D0C [at] hotmail.com>, David B
>><bothecat3 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Meatwad wrote:
>>>
>>> > Still a scam
>>>
>>> If it was a scam they wouldn't be giving the money back. The real
>>> problem
>>> with TrekUnited was they had no clue how to do public relations
>>> effectively.
>>
>>OK, they are returning money (supposedly, to you) - they get ONE bonus
>>point.
>>
>>BUT, how much was removed in "fees" and what's happening with the huge
>>pile of bank interest that the (again, supposed) $3million would have
>>accumulated??
>
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> non-interest bearing account if I recall properly
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1669 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 07:47 |
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Just so long as you limit your apology to those who "falsely" called it a
scam. No need to apologize for the others.
"Captain 20" <c20 [at] setyrtfj.77com> wrote in message
news:tYB9e.20317$Zr.7113 [at] lakeread08...
>> I think it is important that people know for FACT it was no scam.
>
> Yes, that doesn't surprise me. I said all along i didn't think it was a
> scam.
>
>> Yes, I wouldnt mind an apology from those that said it was.
>> Aint holdin' my breath on that one though!
>
> On behalf of all those who falsely called it a scam - i apologize to
> Mutts.
>
>
> --
> "if federal judges have the final word over its meaning,
> the Constitution would be a mere thing of wax in the hands
> of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form
> they please".
>
> - Thomas Jefferson
>
>
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1670 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 08:11 |
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Mutts wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:13:07 +1200, Anybody
> <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
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> >In article <42670FE8.C1EA9D0C [at] hotmail.com>, David B
> ><bothecat3 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Meatwad wrote:
> >>
> >> > Still a scam
> >>
> >> If it was a scam they wouldn't be giving the money back. The real problem
> >> with TrekUnited was they had no clue how to do public relations effectively.
> >
> >OK, they are returning money (supposedly, to you) - they get ONE bonus
> >point.
> >
> >BUT, how much was removed in "fees" and what's happening with the huge
> >pile of bank interest that the (again, supposed) $3million would have
> >accumulated??
>
> non-interest bearing account if I recall properly
TrekUnited never got the money. They got a pledge. If Paramount had accepted the
offer than TrekUnited would've recieved the funds.
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1671 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 08:19 |
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"Mutts" <none [at] none.com> wrote in message
news:4ree61lsovkhhu8oe95977n7oe7kfv4k86 [at] 4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:13:07 +1200, Anybody
> <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <42670FE8.C1EA9D0C [at] hotmail.com>, David B
> > <bothecat3 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Meatwad wrote:
> > >
> > > > Still a scam
> > >
> > > If it was a scam they wouldn't be giving the money back. The real
> > > problem
> > > with TrekUnited was they had no clue how to do public relations
> > > effectively.
> >
> > OK, they are returning money (supposedly, to you) - they get ONE bonus
> > point.
> >
> > BUT, how much was removed in "fees" and what's happening with the huge
> > pile of bank interest that the (again, supposed) $3million would have
> > accumulated??
>
> non-interest bearing account if I recall properly
Yeah, right. Like any bank actually has "non-interest bearing
accounts". Only stupid people would use them and the bank would be
laughing all the way to themselves. :-\
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1672 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 10:27 |
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"Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:210420051819561785%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
>
> Yeah, right. Like any bank actually has "non-interest bearing
> accounts". Only stupid people would use them and the bank would be
> laughing all the way to themselves. :-\
I guess you're not familiar with the concept of an escrow account. Come
back when you've finished high school, and maybe you'll have learned about
such things.
Bo Raxo
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #1674 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 11:46 |
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In article <RtJ9e.9846$An2.2685 [at] newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "Bo
Raxo" <invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote:
> "Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> news:210420051819561785%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> >
> > Yeah, right. Like any bank actually has "non-interest bearing
> > accounts". Only stupid people would use them and the bank would be
> > laughing all the way to themselves. :-\
>
> I guess you're not familiar with the concept of an escrow account. Come
> back when you've finished high school, and maybe you'll have learned about
> such things.
Of course I've heard of the concept, but if you really think anyone
actually uses them, then I've got a Snow Ski Lodge in Florida you might
like to buy. At the VERY least the bank themselves is making interest
off the money. :-(
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #19818 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 16:26 |
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:53:57 -0500, "Captain 20" <c20 [at] setyrtfj.77com>
wrote:
>> I think it is important that people know for FACT it was no scam.
>
>Yes, that doesn't surprise me. I said all along i didn't think it was a
>scam.
>
>> Yes, I wouldnt mind an apology from those that said it was.
>> Aint holdin' my breath on that one though!
>
>On behalf of all those who falsely called it a scam - i apologize to Mutts.
Thanks. It may not have been perfect idea, but it was an attempt by
fans from the heart, trying to do something positive about something
they cared about.. In hindsight, I think Dominic Keating had the right
idea. Use the money for lobbying and paying
professional lobbyists. Getting ads on TV etc. Actually spend the
money. If the campaign trailer had run on TV in 10 large cities during
the show........I wonder.
But the whole problem with many fans was the contribution part.
Double edged sword I guess.
I sure would have liked to see that trailer run during the show at
least once though.
Next year is the 40th anniversary. Maybe paramount will throw us a
bone and do something for the fans.
www.trekunited.com
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening.I got one. [message #19819 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 16:31 |
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Anybody wrote:
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> Of course I've heard of the concept, but if you really think anyone
> actually uses them, then I've got a Snow Ski Lodge in Florida you might
> like to buy. At the VERY least the bank themselves is making interest
> off the money. :-(
I'm in the mortgage business. Lots of intelligent people use escrow
accounts. I would have been worried if the money was not in an escrow
account. Escrow accounts have special restrictions on how and with whom
the money is spent. For that service, the financial institution pockets
any interest.
Also, I believe the three million was in "pledges" and only the hundred
and fifty grand was actually in cash.
--
Gerald
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #19821 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 17:44 |
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> >On behalf of all those who falsely called it a scam - i apologize to
Mutts.
> Thanks.
You're welcome. BTW, where did you fit in the TU hierarchy. You talked as if
you were one of the leaders...
> It may not have been perfect idea, but it was an attempt by
> fans from the heart, trying to do something positive about something
> they cared about.. In hindsight, I think Dominic Keating had the right
> idea. Use the money for lobbying and paying
> professional lobbyists. Getting ads on TV etc. Actually spend the
> money. If the campaign trailer had run on TV in 10 large cities during
> the show........I wonder.
I don't. IMO, the whole effort was mis-guided. It failed to acknowledge one
key fact: For season 4, Enterprise was *already running on borrowed time*.
The network had wanted to cancel it last year, but a concerted, energetic
fan campaign accomplished what few fan campaigns ever had - it actually
worked, helped convince the network to give Enterprise one last chance.
But you only get to dip from that well once. You might be able to convince
someone that the reason they lost money one year was a "fluke" that can be
rectified by sticking it out one more year, but when they do that and lose
money yet again, hell it's all over.
> I sure would have liked to see that trailer run during the show at
> least once though.
>
> Next year is the 40th anniversary. Maybe paramount will throw us a
> bone and do something for the fans.
Hopefully, but doubtfully.
--
"if federal judges have the final word over its meaning,
the Constitution would be a mere thing of wax in the hands
of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form
they please".
- Thomas Jefferson
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #19826 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 21:04 |
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In article <WTP9e.17843$B93.8217 [at] lakeread06>, c20 [at] setyrtfj.77com says...
>
>> >On behalf of all those who falsely called it a scam - i apologize to
>Mutts.
>
>> Thanks.
>
>You're welcome. BTW, where did you fit in the TU hierarchy. You talked as if
>you were one of the leaders...
Way way down the list. My forum participation and thoughts impressed them
enough to be invited to help in a few areas. As McCoy said in ST-TMP....they
used a little known reserve activation clause...they drafted me! I was more
then happy to do what I could.
Never met anyone. Shared the cause. Tried to spread the word best I could
here. Usenet is a very tough crowd if your not used to it. However, it is
easily googled and I felt that there had to be a presence here for TU. Was I
the best one? Probably not, but I did this on my own, nobody told me to from
TU. Just my own passion for Trek. I only lurked and occasionally posted in
Trek groups before.
After this whole thing I am even more a fan of Trek because I have seen what
amazing people other fans are. And I mean amazing fans. Not the dopes in the
basement wearing costumes at 40 years old. I mean the heros in orbit wearing
hard earned uniforms with flags of their nations on them. Or little kids that
love the show and dream big because no one has told them not to yet.
TU is still there. Al Vinci is still giving it a shot. Even SyFy portal admits
he talked to an exec now. Now THAT is amazing coming from them!
Drop by if you want to see whats going on.
It just star trek fans. We dont bite. Much.
www.trekunited.com
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #19827 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 21:17 |
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> Never met anyone. Shared the cause. Tried to spread the word best I could
> here. Usenet is a very tough crowd if your not used to it. However, it is
> easily googled and I felt that there had to be a presence here for TU. Was
I
> the best one? Probably not
Don't be falsely modest. You defended TU as well as was possible. :)
> Drop by if you want to see whats going on.
> It just star trek fans. We dont bite. Much.
I haven't dropped by since the money ticker stopped working last week. ;)
--
"if federal judges have the final word over its meaning,
the Constitution would be a mere thing of wax in the hands
of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form
they please".
- Thomas Jefferson
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #19829 ] |
Fr, 22 April 2005 03:37 |
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"Meatwad" <dfkdjds [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:mKA9e.10686$go4.6072 [at] newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Just is
Wow. That is just incredible. I mean, wow. With logic like that you must be
some really important person.
> "Brenda" <invalid [at] invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:d463t5.3bs.1 [at] news.evilcabal.org...
>>
>> "Meatwad" <dfkdjds [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uOz9e.12757$44.11420 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>> Still a scam
>>>
>>>
>>
>> How?
>>
>>
>>> "Mutts" <none [at] none.com> wrote in message
>>> news:78pc61t2qf1ef7l9672b167l7tlhm219o8 [at] 4ax.com...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > My first refund has been completed from TrekUnited.
>>> > I said I would post on my status.
>>> > Many claimed that TrekUnited was a scam and even when documentation
>>> > was provided to 3rd party reporters to investigate and they said that
>>> > it was legit, continued to lie about trekunited.
>>> >
>>> > I made 3 donations over a month or so. So I should be a good gauge.
>>> >
>>> > The first one is now refunded and completed minus 3%. This is actually
>>> > less then the 5% agreed to. So I got more back than agreed to in the
>>> > contract.
>>> >
>>> > Info on why that is here........
>>> > http://www.trekfansunited.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3856 &hl=
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I will post status on the remaining two donations I made as they come
>>> > in.
>>> >
>>> > They are working their butts off to get everything back to folks.
>>> > There are thousands of donors.
>>> >
>>> > I think it is important that people know for FACT it was no scam.
>>> >
>>> > Yes, I wouldnt mind an apology from those that said it was.
>>> > Aint holdin' my breath on that one though!
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #19830 ] |
Fr, 22 April 2005 04:43 |
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"Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:210420052146219028%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <RtJ9e.9846$An2.2685 [at] newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "Bo
> Raxo" <invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote:
>
> > "Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> > news:210420051819561785%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> > >
> > > Yeah, right. Like any bank actually has "non-interest bearing
> > > accounts". Only stupid people would use them and the bank would be
> > > laughing all the way to themselves. :-\
> >
> > I guess you're not familiar with the concept of an escrow account. Come
> > back when you've finished high school, and maybe you'll have learned
about
> > such things.
>
> Of course I've heard of the concept, but if you really think anyone
> actually uses them, then I've got a Snow Ski Lodge in Florida you might
> like to buy. At the VERY least the bank themselves is making interest
> off the money. :-(
Damn son, you insist on wading ever deeper in to Lake Ignorance. People use
escrow accounts all the time in the business world. A given amount of money
is agreed to be paid once a set of conditions are met (goods pass inspection
or customs, some kind of certification occurs, an appraisal is made, etc.).
Sure, the bank is making interest off the money. But that still makes it a
"non-interest bearing account".
Have you ever considered just admitting it when you're wrong, rather than
making an even bigger ass out of yourself? Well, like I said, maybe by the
time you finish high school....if you ever do.
Bo Raxo
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #19831 ] |
Fr, 22 April 2005 06:19 |
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"Mutts" <none [at] none.com> wrote in message
news:78pc61t2qf1ef7l9672b167l7tlhm219o8 [at] 4ax.com...
>
>
humm sounds like a good deal to me. Send me $3,000,000 and I'll keep 3%
everytime!
--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #19832 ] |
Fr, 22 April 2005 07:26 |
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I'm running for President in 2008.
Vote for me.
"80 Knight" <80_knightNOSPAM [at] rogers.com> wrote in message
news:7vadnQSGrdnMyPXfRVn-sQ [at] rogers.com...
> "Meatwad" <dfkdjds [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mKA9e.10686$go4.6072 [at] newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> Just is
>
>
> Wow. That is just incredible. I mean, wow. With logic like that you must
> be some really important person.
>
>
>> "Brenda" <invalid [at] invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:d463t5.3bs.1 [at] news.evilcabal.org...
>>>
>>> "Meatwad" <dfkdjds [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uOz9e.12757$44.11420 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>> Still a scam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> How?
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Mutts" <none [at] none.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:78pc61t2qf1ef7l9672b167l7tlhm219o8 [at] 4ax.com...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > My first refund has been completed from TrekUnited.
>>>> > I said I would post on my status.
>>>> > Many claimed that TrekUnited was a scam and even when documentation
>>>> > was provided to 3rd party reporters to investigate and they said that
>>>> > it was legit, continued to lie about trekunited.
>>>> >
>>>> > I made 3 donations over a month or so. So I should be a good gauge.
>>>> >
>>>> > The first one is now refunded and completed minus 3%. This is
>>>> > actually
>>>> > less then the 5% agreed to. So I got more back than agreed to in the
>>>> > contract.
>>>> >
>>>> > Info on why that is here........
>>>> > http://www.trekfansunited.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3856 &hl=
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I will post status on the remaining two donations I made as they come
>>>> > in.
>>>> >
>>>> > They are working their butts off to get everything back to folks.
>>>> > There are thousands of donors.
>>>> >
>>>> > I think it is important that people know for FACT it was no scam.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, I wouldnt mind an apology from those that said it was.
>>>> > Aint holdin' my breath on that one though!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > www.trekunited.com
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #20307 ] |
Fr, 22 April 2005 12:07 |
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"Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:7X_9e.4579$sG3.1598 [at] fe09.lga...
>
> "Mutts" <none [at] none.com> wrote in message
> news:78pc61t2qf1ef7l9672b167l7tlhm219o8 [at] 4ax.com...
> >
> >
>
> humm sounds like a good deal to me. Send me $3,000,000 and I'll keep 3%
> everytime!
If those transactions are paid for by credit card you're going to be paying
4 -5 cents on a dollar
for the transaction. Not such a good deal when you're only keeping 3 %
LOL
I find it so humorous people are still trying to make something nefarious
out of trek united
even after the money is being refunded.
>
> --
> JK Sinrod
> Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
> www.sinrodstudios.com
> Coney Island Memories
> www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
>
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening.I got one. [message #20308 ] |
Fr, 22 April 2005 14:47 |
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David B wrote:
> Meatwad wrote:
>
>
>>Still a scam
>>
>
>
> If it was a scam they wouldn't be giving the money back. The real problem
> with TrekUnited was they had no clue how to do public relations effectively.
Also that they were flogging a dead horse.
--
"A man, talking"
-=[ http://hedgewitch.blogspot.com ]=-
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening.I got one. [message #20309 ] |
Fr, 22 April 2005 14:47 |
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80 Knight wrote:
> "Meatwad" <dfkdjds [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mKA9e.10686$go4.6072 [at] newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
>>Just is
>
>
>
> Wow. That is just incredible. I mean, wow. With logic like that you must be
> some really important person.
He is Les Moonves AICMFD
>
>
>>"Brenda" <invalid [at] invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:d463t5.3bs.1 [at] news.evilcabal.org...
>>
>>>"Meatwad" <dfkdjds [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:uOz9e.12757$44.11420 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>
>>>>Still a scam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>How?
>>>
--
"A man, talking"
-=[ http://hedgewitch.blogspot.com ]=-
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #20313 ] |
Fr, 22 April 2005 17:39 |
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Well TU could just come out and give an accounting, but it won't. On its
web site it says it will only provide such information to institutions such
as "the BBC." Reason given: TU does not want to give ammo to others to be
used against it. Says it right there on the web site. So TU will have to
put up with questions and scepticism while asking everyone to rely on only
anecdotes about refunds.
I'm not asking for an accounting or that the records, or that some of the
records, be shown. But so long as they keep them hidden, they will have to
expect questions. It's healthy.
"Brenda" <invalid [at] invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:d4a29g.2ag.1 [at] news.evilcabal.org...
>
> "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
> news:7X_9e.4579$sG3.1598 [at] fe09.lga...
>>
>> "Mutts" <none [at] none.com> wrote in message
>> news:78pc61t2qf1ef7l9672b167l7tlhm219o8 [at] 4ax.com...
>> >
>> >
>>
>> humm sounds like a good deal to me. Send me $3,000,000 and I'll keep 3%
>> everytime!
>
> If those transactions are paid for by credit card you're going to be
> paying
> 4 -5 cents on a dollar
> for the transaction. Not such a good deal when you're only keeping 3 %
> LOL
> I find it so humorous people are still trying to make something nefarious
> out of trek united
> even after the money is being refunded.
>
>>
>> --
>> JK Sinrod
>> Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
>> www.sinrodstudios.com
>> Coney Island Memories
>> www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #20327 ] |
Sa, 23 April 2005 00:50 |
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In article <d4arlr$gs6$2$8300dec7 [at] news.demon.co.uk>, Robin Lithaborn
<this [at] doesnotwork.com> wrote:
> David B wrote:
> > Meatwad wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Still a scam
> >>
> >
> >
> > If it was a scam they wouldn't be giving the money back. The real problem
> > with TrekUnited was they had no clue how to do public relations effectively.
>
> Also that they were flogging a dead horse.
That horse was dead, buried and LONG turned to dust before they even
thought of their dubious idea. :-\
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #20359 ] |
Sa, 23 April 2005 08:58 |
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"Robin Lithaborn" <this [at] doesnotwork.com> wrote in message
news:d4arkk$gs6$1$8300dec7 [at] news.demon.co.uk...
> 80 Knight wrote:
>> "Meatwad" <dfkdjds [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:mKA9e.10686$go4.6072 [at] newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>
>>>Just is
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow. That is just incredible. I mean, wow. With logic like that you must
>> be some really important person.
>
> He is Les Moonves AICMFD
You lost me with the last part...
>>>"Brenda" <invalid [at] invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>>news:d463t5.3bs.1 [at] news.evilcabal.org...
>>>
>>>>"Meatwad" <dfkdjds [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:uOz9e.12757$44.11420 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>
>>>>>Still a scam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How?
>>>>
>
>
> --
> "A man, talking"
>
> -=[ http://hedgewitch.blogspot.com ]=-
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #22123 ] |
Di, 26 April 2005 00:49 |
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I Don't Think anybody (even those who donated) expected to make enough
money. the best thing that could happen was to make a big enough noise that
paramount and the network would see that Enterprise still had a substantial
following, and put the money in themselves.
While I didn't particularly want Enterprise saving, i Think Star Trek fans
have made enough noise with their donations to Ensure a future for the Star
Trek franchise. If you dont think that was worth 5% then you don't donate.
I donated knowing it would fail, and i would loose 5% but it was worth it to
tell the people in power that WE are here, and we want Star Trek. (Money
Talks!)
"Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:230420051050141988%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <d4arlr$gs6$2$8300dec7 [at] news.demon.co.uk>, Robin Lithaborn
> <this [at] doesnotwork.com> wrote:
>
>> David B wrote:
>> > Meatwad wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>Still a scam
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > If it was a scam they wouldn't be giving the money back. The real
>> > problem
>> > with TrekUnited was they had no clue how to do public relations
>> > effectively.
>>
>> Also that they were flogging a dead horse.
>
> That horse was dead, buried and LONG turned to dust before they even
> thought of their dubious idea. :-\
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #22125 ] |
Di, 26 April 2005 00:58 |
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"aola" <aola [at] aola.com> wrote in message
news:AYidnYGz8NpQh_TfRVn-iA [at] speakeasy.net...
>
> I'm not asking for an accounting or that the records, or that some of the
> records, be shown. But so long as they keep them hidden, they will have
> to expect questions. It's healthy.
>
Agreed, i hope any money that goes to charity is donated publicly. i don't
normally think Gifts should be made a display of, but maybe if its done so,
people won't be able to acuse them of anything.
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #22155 ] |
Di, 26 April 2005 08:44 |
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In article <d4js5v$9qp$1 [at] newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Feriol"
<martin [at] trowell394.fsnet.co.unk> wrote:
> I Don't Think anybody (even those who donated) expected to make enough
> money. the best thing that could happen was to make a big enough noise that
> paramount and the network would see that Enterprise still had a substantial
> following, and put the money in themselves.
>
> While I didn't particularly want Enterprise saving, i Think Star Trek fans
> have made enough noise with their donations to Ensure a future for the Star
> Trek franchise. If you dont think that was worth 5% then you don't donate.
>
> I donated knowing it would fail, and i would loose 5% but it was worth it to
> tell the people in power that WE are here, and we want Star Trek. (Money
> Talks!)
You would have had WAY more success if it was a campaign to raise money
to hire a hitman to rid us of B&B. ;-)
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #22157 ] |
Di, 26 April 2005 09:20 |
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"Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:260420051844237323%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <d4js5v$9qp$1 [at] newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Feriol"
> <martin [at] trowell394.fsnet.co.unk> wrote:
>
>> I Don't Think anybody (even those who donated) expected to make enough
>> money. the best thing that could happen was to make a big enough noise
>> that
>> paramount and the network would see that Enterprise still had a
>> substantial
>> following, and put the money in themselves.
>>
>> While I didn't particularly want Enterprise saving, i Think Star Trek
>> fans
>> have made enough noise with their donations to Ensure a future for the
>> Star
>> Trek franchise. If you dont think that was worth 5% then you don't
>> donate.
>>
>> I donated knowing it would fail, and i would loose 5% but it was worth it
>> to
>> tell the people in power that WE are here, and we want Star Trek. (Money
>> Talks!)
>
> You would have had WAY more success if it was a campaign to raise money
> to hire a hitman to rid us of B&B. ;-)
I think we should get a new Star Trek series in the not too distant future
now, and hopefully the views of the fans will be considered and Coto will be
in control, if not Roddenbery jnr.
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #28300 ] |
Fr, 06 Mai 2005 05:41 |
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I also received my refund....
Wish I had not though....... (as in success)
CW
"Mutts" <none [at] none.com> wrote in message
news:78pc61t2qf1ef7l9672b167l7tlhm219o8 [at] 4ax.com...
>
>
> My first refund has been completed from TrekUnited.
> I said I would post on my status.
> Many claimed that TrekUnited was a scam and even when documentation
> was provided to 3rd party reporters to investigate and they said that
> it was legit, continued to lie about trekunited.
>
> I made 3 donations over a month or so. So I should be a good gauge.
>
> The first one is now refunded and completed minus 3%. This is actually
> less then the 5% agreed to. So I got more back than agreed to in the
> contract.
>
> Info on why that is here........
> http://www.trekfansunited.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3856 &hl=
>
>
> I will post status on the remaining two donations I made as they come
> in.
>
> They are working their butts off to get everything back to folks.
> There are thousands of donors.
>
> I think it is important that people know for FACT it was no scam.
>
> Yes, I wouldnt mind an apology from those that said it was.
> Aint holdin' my breath on that one though!
>
>
>
>
> www.trekunited.com
>
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| Re: Refunds from the TrekUnited campaign. Yes they are happening. I got one. [message #28301 ] |
Fr, 06 Mai 2005 05:42 |
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They never took possession of the 3 million I thought.
No fees, all refunded.
"Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:210420051613079922%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <42670FE8.C1EA9D0C [at] hotmail.com>, David B
> <bothecat3 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Meatwad wrote:
>>
>> > Still a scam
>>
>> If it was a scam they wouldn't be giving the money back. The real problem
>> with TrekUnited was they had no clue how to do public relations
>> effectively.
>
> OK, they are returning money (supposedly, to you) - they get ONE bonus
> point.
>
> BUT, how much was removed in "fees" and what's happening with the huge
> pile of bank interest that the (again, supposed) $3million would have
> accumulated??
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