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TOS novels [message #111343] Di, 16 August 2005 23:10
ToolPackinMama  
I picked up a new one the other day: GEMINI by Mike W. Barr. I haven't
read it yet.
Re: TOS novels [message #111345 ] Mi, 17 August 2005 00:24
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: TOS novels [message #111347 ] Mi, 17 August 2005 03:19
phyphor  
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:10:26 -0400, ToolPackinMama
<laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:

>I picked up a new one the other day: GEMINI by Mike W. Barr. I haven't
>read it yet.


Um.... so?

-LMB
Re: TOS novels [message #111348 ] Mi, 17 August 2005 03:32
ANIM8Rfsk  
in article qa45g1p946atmuepepknsqb40mhil4m8ki [at] 4ax.com, Louis M. Brown at
phyphor [at] rocketmail.com wrote on 8/16/05 6:19 PM:

> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:10:26 -0400, ToolPackinMama
> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>
>> I picked up a new one the other day: GEMINI by Mike W. Barr. I haven't
>> read it yet.
>
>
> Um.... so?
>
> -LMB
>

So she's actually on topic. Enjoy it while it lasts.

--

You Can't Stop the Signal
Re: TOS novels [message #111349 ] Mi, 17 August 2005 03:41
phyphor  
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:32:12 -0700, ANIM8Rfsk <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net>
wrote:

>in article qa45g1p946atmuepepknsqb40mhil4m8ki [at] 4ax.com, Louis M. Brown at
>phyphor [at] rocketmail.com wrote on 8/16/05 6:19 PM:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:10:26 -0400, ToolPackinMama
>> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I picked up a new one the other day: GEMINI by Mike W. Barr. I haven't
>>> read it yet.
>>
>>
>> Um.... so?
>>
>> -LMB
>>
>
>So she's actually on topic. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Well, not really. She should have at least told us what the jacket /
back cover said....

On the subject of Trek Novels, anyone here ever read Federation?

Interesting TOS/TNG crossover. Bit predictable, but then again,
there's only so many stories..

-LMB
Re: TOS novels [message #111350 ] Mi, 17 August 2005 07:31
ANIM8Rfsk  
in article si55g1dkq6u22im1ii4gs6p9qckd85qpqi [at] 4ax.com, Louis M. Brown at
phyphor [at] rocketmail.com wrote on 8/16/05 6:41 PM:

> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:32:12 -0700, ANIM8Rfsk <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> in article qa45g1p946atmuepepknsqb40mhil4m8ki [at] 4ax.com, Louis M. Brown at
>> phyphor [at] rocketmail.com wrote on 8/16/05 6:19 PM:
>>
>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:10:26 -0400, ToolPackinMama
>>> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I picked up a new one the other day: GEMINI by Mike W. Barr. I haven't
>>>> read it yet.
>>>
>>>
>>> Um.... so?
>>>
>>> -LMB
>>>
>>
>> So she's actually on topic. Enjoy it while it lasts.
> Well, not really. She should have at least told us what the jacket /
> back cover said....
>
> On the subject of Trek Novels, anyone here ever read Federation?
>
> Interesting TOS/TNG crossover. Bit predictable, but then again,
> there's only so many stories..
>
All of which are better than GENERATIONS.

--

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Re: TOS novels [message #111355 ] Mi, 17 August 2005 16:41
al019  
ANIM8Rfsk (ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net) wrote:
: in article qa45g1p946atmuepepknsqb40mhil4m8ki [at] 4ax.com, Louis M. Brown at
: phyphor [at] rocketmail.com wrote on 8/16/05 6:19 PM:

: > On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:10:26 -0400, ToolPackinMama
: > <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
: >
: >> I picked up a new one the other day: GEMINI by Mike W. Barr. I haven't
: >> read it yet.
: >
: >
: > Um.... so?
: >
: > -LMB
: >

: So she's actually on topic. Enjoy it while it lasts.

She's USUALLY on topic actually.

Brad
Re: TOS novels [message #111356 ] Mi, 17 August 2005 18:04
ToolPackinMama  
Brad Filippone wrote:
> ANIM8Rfsk (ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net) wrote:

> : So she's actually on topic. Enjoy it while it lasts.
>
> She's USUALLY on topic actually.

Thank you, Brad.

FWIW the people who are knocking me are the ones who are off-topic in
this thread.
Re: TOS novels [message #111361 ] Mi, 17 August 2005 19:53
Kweeg  
"Brad Filippone" <al019 [at] chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in message
news:ddvib2$3od$1 [at] News.Dal.Ca...
> ANIM8Rfsk (ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net) wrote:
> : in article qa45g1p946atmuepepknsqb40mhil4m8ki [at] 4ax.com, Louis M. Brown at
> : phyphor [at] rocketmail.com wrote on 8/16/05 6:19 PM:
>
> : > On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:10:26 -0400, ToolPackinMama
> : > <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
> : >
> : >> I picked up a new one the other day: GEMINI by Mike W. Barr. I
haven't
> : >> read it yet.
> : >
> : >
> : > Um.... so?
> : >
> : > -LMB
> : >
>
> : So she's actually on topic. Enjoy it while it lasts.
>
> She's USUALLY on topic actually.


You forgot your "hail Laura" at the end, not good for a minion, your gonna
get in trouble now.....

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Re: TOS novels [message #111362 ] Mi, 17 August 2005 23:00
phyphor  
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:04:38 -0400, ToolPackinMama
<laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:

>Brad Filippone wrote:
>> ANIM8Rfsk (ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net) wrote:
>
>> : So she's actually on topic. Enjoy it while it lasts.
>>
>> She's USUALLY on topic actually.
>
>Thank you, Brad.
>
>FWIW the people who are knocking me are the ones who are off-topic in
>this thread.

Um...I actually said something about the book I mentioned, other than
"I have a new book. "

-LMB
Re: TOS novels - now K/S Killfile Laura Perversion [message #111363 ] Do, 18 August 2005 02:01
ANIM8Rfsk  
in article ag97g1to999k78fla35udh69j89hh6ih3s [at] 4ax.com, Louis M. Brown at
phyphor [at] rocketmail.com wrote on 8/17/05 2:00 PM:

> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:04:38 -0400, ToolPackinMama
> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>
>> Brad Filippone wrote:
>>> ANIM8Rfsk (ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net) wrote:
>>
>>> : So she's actually on topic. Enjoy it while it lasts.
>>>
>>> She's USUALLY on topic actually.
>>
>> Thank you, Brad.
>>
>> FWIW the people who are knocking me are the ones who are off-topic in
>> this thread.
>
> Um...I actually said something about the book I mentioned, other than
> "I have a new book. "
>
> -LMB

And she and her sock puppet spiraled another thread into the killfile.

Killfile words added to heading, per the FAQ

>

--

You Can't Stop the Signal
Re: TOS novels [message #111364 ] Do, 18 August 2005 04:38
ToolPackinMama  
ANIM8Rfsk wrote:

> And she and her sock puppet spiraled another thread into the killfile.

LOL You idiot. God, you are hilarious.
Re: TOS novels [message #111365 ] Do, 18 August 2005 04:40
ToolPackinMama  
Anybody read Gemini? I was wondering if I picked up a lemon.
Re: TOS novels [message #111367 ] Do, 18 August 2005 05:17
phyphor  
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 22:40:07 -0400, ToolPackinMama
<laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:

>Anybody read Gemini? I was wondering if I picked up a lemon.

From the reviews, it doesn't sound like it's anything
earth-shattering,

"As long as you don't look for sophistication and deep philosophical
insights but rather treat it as a bit of escapist fun and a few hours
of light reading, it has done all it intends"

http://www.computercrowsnest.com/sfnews2/04_feb/review0204_2 9.shtml

-LMB
Re: TOS novels [message #111381 ] Do, 18 August 2005 14:06
Wouter Valentijn  
ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
> in article si55g1dkq6u22im1ii4gs6p9qckd85qpqi [at] 4ax.com, Louis M. Brown
> at phyphor [at] rocketmail.com wrote on 8/16/05 6:41 PM:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:32:12 -0700, ANIM8Rfsk <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> in article qa45g1p946atmuepepknsqb40mhil4m8ki [at] 4ax.com, Louis M.
>>> Brown at phyphor [at] rocketmail.com wrote on 8/16/05 6:19 PM:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:10:26 -0400, ToolPackinMama
>>>> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I picked up a new one the other day: GEMINI by Mike W. Barr. I
>>>>> haven't read it yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Um.... so?
>>>>
>>>> -LMB
>>>>
>>>
>>> So she's actually on topic. Enjoy it while it lasts.
>> Well, not really. She should have at least told us what the jacket /
>> back cover said....
>>
>> On the subject of Trek Novels, anyone here ever read Federation?

Yup.
One of the best imo.

>>
>> Interesting TOS/TNG crossover. Bit predictable, but then again,
>> there's only so many stories..
>>
> All of which are better than GENERATIONS.

I compare it to 'First Contact' since it's about Cochrane.
I liked 'Federation' better.


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Re: TOS novels [message #111390 ] Fr, 19 August 2005 03:06
phyphor  
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:26:53 -0500, "Sean" <anonymous [at] nowhere.net>
wrote:

>On
>>On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:04:38 -0400, ToolPackinMama
>><laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Brad Filippone wrote:
>>>> ANIM8Rfsk (ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net) wrote:
>>>
>>>> : So she's actually on topic. Enjoy it while it lasts.
>>>>
>>>> She's USUALLY on topic actually.
>>>
>>>Thank you, Brad.
>>>
>>>FWIW the people who are knocking me are the ones who are off-topic in
>>>this thread.
>>
>>Um...I actually said something about the book I mentioned, other than
>>"I have a new book. "
>>
>>-LMB
>>
>
>She's wondering what others' opinions about this book are. As for not saying
>anything about the book, you can't really say much about something you haven't
>read yet. This, of course brings us back to your opinions about the book; she
>wouldn't have asked if she already knew about the story.


Given that the ONLY content of her post is: "I picked up a new one the
other day: GEMINI by Mike W. Barr. I haven't
read it yet." - that's debatable.

-LMB
Re: TOS novels [message #111392 ] Fr, 19 August 2005 03:28
ToolPackinMama  
Sean wrote:

> She's wondering what others' opinions about this book are. As for not saying
> anything about the book, you can't really say much about something you haven't
> read yet. This, of course brings us back to your opinions about the book; she
> wouldn't have asked if she already knew about the story.

Thank you. :) It's amusing to see how much dust some people can kick up
over nothing.

BTW, I'm also interested to know what other new TOS novels are available
that people think are worthwhile.
Re: TOS novels [message #111399 ] Fr, 19 August 2005 07:22
ANIM8Rfsk  
in article 430479aa$0$11076$e4fe514c [at] news.xs4all.nl, Wouter Valentijn at
liam [at] valentijn.nu wrote on 8/18/05 5:06 AM:

> ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
>> in article si55g1dkq6u22im1ii4gs6p9qckd85qpqi [at] 4ax.com, Louis M. Brown
>> at phyphor [at] rocketmail.com wrote on 8/16/05 6:41 PM:
>>
>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:32:12 -0700, ANIM8Rfsk <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> in article qa45g1p946atmuepepknsqb40mhil4m8ki [at] 4ax.com, Louis M.
>>>> Brown at phyphor [at] rocketmail.com wrote on 8/16/05 6:19 PM:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:10:26 -0400, ToolPackinMama
>>>>> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I picked up a new one the other day: GEMINI by Mike W. Barr. I
>>>>>> haven't read it yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Um.... so?
>>>>>
>>>>> -LMB
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So she's actually on topic. Enjoy it while it lasts.
>>> Well, not really. She should have at least told us what the jacket /
>>> back cover said....
>>>
>>> On the subject of Trek Novels, anyone here ever read Federation?
>
> Yup.
> One of the best imo.
>
>>>
>>> Interesting TOS/TNG crossover. Bit predictable, but then again,
>>> there's only so many stories..
>>>
>> All of which are better than GENERATIONS.
>
> I compare it to 'First Contact' since it's about Cochrane.
> I liked 'Federation' better.
>
Is the Cochrane in FEDERATION the guy we met in TOS or the weird imposter
from TNG?

--

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Re: TOS novels [message #111401 ] Fr, 19 August 2005 07:36
The Merry Piper  
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:22:24 -0700, ANIM8Rfsk <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net>
wrote:


>Is the Cochrane in FEDERATION the guy we met in TOS or the weird imposter
>from TNG?

The character Cochrane in 'Federation' is the same character as in the
TOS episode.

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Re: TOS novels [message #111405 ] Fr, 19 August 2005 11:43
Wouter Valentijn  
The Merry Piper wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:22:24 -0700, ANIM8Rfsk <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Is the Cochrane in FEDERATION the guy we met in TOS or the weird
>> imposter from TNG?
>
> The character Cochrane in 'Federation' is the same character as in the
> TOS episode.

Thank goodness yes.
Sadly it's not canon.
It couldn't be specially after 'First Contact'.

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Re: TOS novels [message #111406 ] Fr, 19 August 2005 11:45
Wouter Valentijn  
ToolPackinMama wrote:
> Sean wrote:
>
>> She's wondering what others' opinions about this book are. As for
>> not saying anything about the book, you can't really say much about
>> something you haven't read yet. This, of course brings us back to
>> your opinions about the book; she wouldn't have asked if she already
>> knew about the story.
>
> Thank you. :) It's amusing to see how much dust some people can kick
> up over nothing.
>
> BTW, I'm also interested to know what other new TOS novels are
> available that people think are worthwhile.

The New Earth series I think. Not really all that new but I liked them.
Same goes for the two 'Eugenics Wars' books.


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Re: TOS novels [message #111410 ] Fr, 19 August 2005 16:18
al019  
ToolPackinMama (laura [at] lauragoodwin.org) wrote:
: Sean wrote:

: > She's wondering what others' opinions about this book are. As for not saying
: > anything about the book, you can't really say much about something you haven't
: > read yet. This, of course brings us back to your opinions about the book; she
: > wouldn't have asked if she already knew about the story.

: Thank you. :) It's amusing to see how much dust some people can kick up
: over nothing.

: BTW, I'm also interested to know what other new TOS novels are available
: that people think are worthwhile.

It's been so long since I've read a new Star Trek novel. I find it
somewhat disheartening that every one of them these days has to be part of
a series. What happened to the old days of one shot novels that didn't
require you to read several books to understand. I recently re-read "The
Klingon Gambit." Now THOSE were the good old days of Star Trek novels!

Brad
Re: TOS novels [message #111422 ] Sa, 20 August 2005 00:22
phyphor  
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:18:49 +0000 (UTC), al019 [at] chebucto.ns.ca (Brad
Filippone) wrote:

>ToolPackinMama (laura [at] lauragoodwin.org) wrote:
>: Sean wrote:
>
>: > She's wondering what others' opinions about this book are. As for not saying
>: > anything about the book, you can't really say much about something you haven't
>: > read yet. This, of course brings us back to your opinions about the book; she
>: > wouldn't have asked if she already knew about the story.
>
>: Thank you. :) It's amusing to see how much dust some people can kick up
>: over nothing.
>
>: BTW, I'm also interested to know what other new TOS novels are available
>: that people think are worthwhile.
>
>It's been so long since I've read a new Star Trek novel. I find it
>somewhat disheartening that every one of them these days has to be part of
>a series. What happened to the old days of one shot novels that didn't
>require you to read several books to understand. I recently re-read "The
>Klingon Gambit." Now THOSE were the good old days of Star Trek novels!
>
>Brad

Most of the one shot novels were by writers who actually had new
ideas, or perhaps, a new spin on an old idea. However, the "series"
thing is just a way to package crappy rehashed stories in a way that
all but forces you to buy the rest of the series in the hope of
knowing WTF is going on.

Case in point, the Captain's Table 'series.' While not bad by itself,
(I have the one w/Picard in it, Dujonian's Hoard, the end of DH brings
in Sisko, so in order to find out Sisko's story, you have to buy THAT
book.

Not to mention the Day of Honor series, which, again, wasn't bad...but
if it weren't for the gimmick, there'd be little to recommend it.

Even the older writers of Trek novels rarely got it truly right. In
some cases, like "Mutiny on the Enterprise, " what could be an
interesting idea got bogged down by contrivied, predictable events.
(Case in point, in MotE, who DIDN'T know that Lorelei was going to
take over the Ent?)
Some of the books, like Dreadnought were written from the perspective
of different characters...but sadly, this too rarely worked out. (the
aforementiond "dreadnought" was mildly entertaining,but then when they
brought out the sequel, "Battlestations" it read like a retread of the
first book, literally.

Star Trek novels have traditionally suffered from the same fate as
many other Sci-fi novels based on a franchise. While there have been
some true gems in the series over the years (My Enemy, My Ally comes
to mind, as does The Abode of Life, and finally, How much for just the
planet?) most of them range from Enterprise 3rd season good all the
way down to Voyager: Threshold (or Spirit Folk) bad.

-LMB
Re: TOS novels [message #111428 ] Sa, 20 August 2005 04:50
ToolPackinMama  
Brad Filippone wrote:

> It's been so long since I've read a new Star Trek novel. I find it
> somewhat disheartening that every one of them these days has to be part of
> a series. What happened to the old days of one shot novels that didn't
> require you to read several books to understand. I recently re-read "The
> Klingon Gambit." Now THOSE were the good old days of Star Trek novels!

The last good new one I read was CLOAK.
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