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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting
| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294531 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 23:18 |
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on 04/07/2006 21:46 Cathy Young said the following:
> elfin wrote:
>> Many years ago I found out that the most reliable place to get
>> measured for a bra was in Marks and Spencer(at least in the UK).
<snip>
> I suspect it depends on what end of the size spectrum you are, judging
> by the reports I've heard elsewhere.
I'd guess 38-40CompletelyFlat. I'm still trying to work out why he was
trying to get measured for a bra! :-0
> Personally the one measurement I
> got was good, but all the bras I've bought there in recent years have
> been uncomfortable enough that I don't want to bother trying them again.
I think I went to M&S to get measured for maternity bras. They were
completely useless and I ended up just choosing for myself.
--
esmi
A Brief Guide to alt.fan.pratchett:
http://www.blackwidows.co.uk/afp-guide/
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| Re: [I] Potential London Meets [message #294532 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 23:37 |
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Anastasia wrote:
> Dom wrote:
>> Anastasia wrote:
>>
>>> Never let it be said, either, that I don't send pics where there's
>>> even a hint of a polite request.
>> Looks at picture.
>
> That's me at a public professional event, BTW. A similar picture appears in
> the May 2006 issue of Locus, with two of the editors of GoL.
My second thought, on seeing that picture, was: I wonder what the wine is?
>> Did you say you were going to be in London before the Con?
>
> Why, yes, I am. There's talk of a meet, but I haven't carried it forward due
> to an acute attack of RL, plus group doings.
>
>> (Not sure if he should stay well away or wander down)
>
> I get that a lot. ;-)
*g*
Well, if you are going to be in town I can usually manage to get there.
I'm not going to be able to get to the Con, but aim to meet as
many [#]afpers as possible while they in the area.
--
Dom
afpSlave to CCA
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294542 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 00:00 |
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In article <2%yqg.96166$wl.87811 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Random C
<random [at] panatropic.net> writes
>Random C wrote:
>> Cathy Young wrote:
>>
>>> (Ah, the perennial AFP bra thread.)
>>>
>> The online measurement guides tell me I'm a 36C. Selfridges tell me
>>I'm a 30 or 32D. Selfridges are right. For the first time *ever* my
>>bras don't hurt.
>Oh, I just looked at another one someone commented about on LJ. *that*
>tells me I'm a 38A.
As I mentioned on LJ, possibly in that self-same thread, I had a very
good experience with an M&S fitter, but she was of the "measure it as a
starting point" school. Measured, considered what shape I was, and then
sallied forth and returned with several different sizes in styles she
thought had a good chance of being the same shape as me. And then
checked as I tried each one on to see whether it fitted correctly, and
if it didn't, how it didn't, and went out and got a few more based on
the results of the initial experiment.
But I gather they vary in quality, and I got lucky.
--
Julia Jones
Spindrift -- EPPIE 2006 finalist, 5 stars from JERR
Richard finds the truth in legend, when he finds a silkie bereft of
his skin and in need of a home... http://www.loose-id.net/detail.aspx?ID=138
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| Re: [I] Potential London Meets [message #294557 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 00:13 |
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Dom <domafp [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Anastasia wrote:
> > Dom wrote:
> >> Anastasia wrote:
> >>
> >>> Never let it be said, either, that I don't send pics where there's
> >>> even a hint of a polite request.
> >> Looks at picture.
> >
> > That's me at a public professional event, BTW. A similar picture appears in
> > the May 2006 issue of Locus, with two of the editors of GoL.
>
> My second thought, on seeing that picture, was: I wonder what the wine is?
>
> >> Did you say you were going to be in London before the Con?
> >
> > Why, yes, I am. There's talk of a meet, but I haven't carried it forward due
> > to an acute attack of RL, plus group doings.
> >
> >> (Not sure if he should stay well away or wander down)
> >
> > I get that a lot. ;-)
>
> *g*
>
> Well, if you are going to be in town I can usually manage to get there.
>
> I'm not going to be able to get to the Con, but aim to meet as
> many [#]afpers as possible while they in the area.
So if we were to say, for example, the Saturday before the Con, at, say,
The Green Man in London, then things might start heading in the right
direction...
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294559 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 00:13 |
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esmi <esmi [at] lspace.org> wrote:
> on 04/07/2006 21:14 Cathy Young said the following:
>
> > Hmm. Generally speaking I have around a size 10 waist, size 14 hips and
> > bust.
> >
> > In M&S this translates as
>
> <snip>
>
> And men wonder why it takes women ages to buy clothes.
Only until we learn not to ask.
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| Re: [I] Potential London Meets [message #294562 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 00:41 |
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Aquarion wrote:
<staciemeet>
> So if we were to say, for example, the Saturday before the Con, at,
> say, The Green Man in London, then things might start heading in
> the right direction...
Ohhhhh, so THAT is how it happens.
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| [F] Potential London Meets [message #294570 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 01:00 |
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In article <1hhz4eo.9ex2ayrmjbd5N%aqusenet [at] mailinator.com>, Aquarion
<aqusenet [at] mailinator.com> writes
>Dom <domafp [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Well, if you are going to be in town I can usually manage to get there.
>>
>> I'm not going to be able to get to the Con, but aim to meet as
>> many [#]afpers as possible while they in the area.
>
>So if we were to say, for example, the Saturday before the Con, at, say,
>The Green Man in London, then things might start heading in the right
>direction...
How about the Wednesday evening as a pre-Con /warm up meet? A lot of
visiting afpers arrive via London the day or evening before and could
join in before hitting the massed horde in Hinckley. It should be easy
to get the basement for mid week at that time of year. For London
working people it can be easier than a weekend (since most don't
actually live centrally). Crash space has generally been pretty
generously available in London via the meets list - the mix of people
going/not going should make help that.
Its a while since I organised anything there myself - Barry R or the
Davisons might well have a better view on the current management, it has
changed in the last year but it might be nice to go back.
--
Karen/hypatia Karen [at] lspace.org
New? Check http://www.lspace.org
Confused? Mail the Clue Fairies at afp-help [at] lspace.org
Discworld Convention 2006, August 18-21, http://www.dwcon.org
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| Re: [F] Potential London Meets [message #294573 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 01:19 |
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Karen wrote:
> In article <1hhz4eo.9ex2ayrmjbd5N%aqusenet [at] mailinator.com>, Aquarion
> <aqusenet [at] mailinator.com> writes
>> Dom <domafp [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>
>>> Well, if you are going to be in town I can usually manage to get
>>> there. I'm not going to be able to get to the Con, but aim to meet as
>>> many [#]afpers as possible while they in the area.
>>
>> So if we were to say, for example, the Saturday before the Con,
>> at, say, The Green Man in London, then things might start heading
>> in the right direction...
>
>
> How about the Wednesday evening as a pre-Con /warm up meet? A lot of
> visiting afpers arrive via London the day or evening before and
> could join in before hitting the massed horde in Hinckley. It
> should be easy to get the basement for mid week at that time of
> year.
That's a possibility: I have days unaccounted for between Alec's place and
the COn. Speaking of, I need to find crashy space for a night or two, or
find a hotel. I would rather meet actual people, though, than sit in a hotel
by myself.
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294578 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 01:03 |
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Cathy Young <cathy [at] bentbacktulips.co.uk> wrote
(on Tue, 04 Jul 2006 21:14:03 +0100):
> Hmm. Generally speaking I have around a size 10 waist, size 14 hips and
> bust.
>
> In M&S this translates as a size 12 for pretty much everything, except
> their strappy tops/vests, which have to be size 16/18 to not be very tight.
>
> In Next this is a size 14 top and bottom, except their size 14
> trousers/skirts are a little big. (What can you do though?)
>
> In Monsoon it's 12/14 on top. No idea about skirts and trousers, but I'd
> guess at 14.
>
> In New Look it's generally a 12, but sometimes 14 depending on the item.
>
> In River Island I think it's 14 for tops, 10 for skirts. Not sure about
> trousers.
>
> In Topshop/Miss Selfridge/other teen shops it's 14/16 all the way.
>
> In Oasis they make their clothes extra small, so I'd guess a 16 if I'm
> lucky (haven't checked, but I bet they don't do above size 16).
I tried ot buy maternity clothes and was told "buy your pre-pregnancy size."
"In which SHOP?" I cried.
No-one admitted there was more than one version of a size 8.
A.
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294582 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 01:08 |
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elfin <elfin [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote
(on Tue, 04 Jul 2006 21:21:12 +0100):
> On 04/07/2006 20:46, Cathy Young wrote:
> > clanwilliam [at] gmail.com wrote:
> >> Cathy Young wrote:
> >
> >> Those online fitting guides are complete rubbish. [...]
> >>
> >> Simple rule for getting an approximation: the measurement around
> >> your chest below your breasts is your bra size. Subtract this
> >> from the measurement around your breasts at the fullest point to
> >> get your cup size - go up a cup size for each inch (not counting
> >> double-letter sizes).
> >
> > That actually makes a lot of sense, and ties in with my notion that
> > I need to go down another band size. I'll have to try this and see
> > if it helps. Thank you for the alternative system; I'm sure it's
> > much more accurate than the standard one. Now we just have to help
> > you take over the world with it.
>
> Many years ago I found out that the most reliable place to get
> measured for a bra was in Marks and Spencer(at least in the UK).
> Though most people then went elsewhere to actually purchase one.
Heh, twice they measured me *in my ill-fitting bra* and tried to persuade
me that I was the size they said I was which obviously didn't fit. Two
different bra fitters.
Mothercare also measured me in the ill-fitting bra, as did John Lewis, but
at least they believed me when I said the saggy one they gave me didn't fit.
Contessa measured me braless, which was better, but couldn't cope with me
being pregnant and nursing.
I really will have to get Jen to take me to Selfridges one day.
A.
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| Re: [F] Potential London Meets [message #294616 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 07:00 |
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Anastasia house_damodred [at] yahoo.com wrote in
<PHCqg.3202$PE1.1085 [at] newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>:
>
> That's a possibility: I have days unaccounted for between Alec's place and
> the COn. Speaking of, I need to find crashy space for a night or two, or
> find a hotel. I would rather meet actual people, though, than sit in a hotel
> by myself.
>
I can't offer crash space since I don't know for certain where I will be
living by then, or indeed by next week. However I'll at least be in
striking distance of London and the offer of sorting out a (cheap) theatre
meet still stands. Unfortunately the show at the Finborough with Jack
Klaff closes on the 12th, otherwise it would have been ideal.
There's also a child friendly pub suitable for a small/middling meet just
by the Imperial War Museum, if that appeals.
--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
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| Re: [F] Potential London Meets [message #294617 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 07:09 |
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Eric Jarvis wrote:
> Anastasia house_damodred [at] yahoo.com wrote in
> <PHCqg.3202$PE1.1085 [at] newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>:
>>
>> That's a possibility: I have days unaccounted for between Alec's
>> place and the COn. Speaking of, I need to find crashy space for a
>> night or two, or find a hotel. I would rather meet actual people,
>> though, than sit in a hotel by myself.
>>
>
> I can't offer crash space since I don't know for certain where I
> will be living by then, or indeed by next week.
I think that's sorted now. I might, depending on who wants Rent-A-Stacie,
spend a night or two elsewhere, but Alec's offer of lodgings has been
extended so that I am not actually without a roof at any particular time.
>However I'll at
> least be in striking distance of London and the offer of sorting
> out a (cheap) theatre meet still stands. Unfortunately the show at
> the Finborough with Jack Klaff closes on the 12th, otherwise it
> would have been ideal.
I wouldn't be at my best, having arrived just the morning of.
> There's also a child friendly pub suitable for a small/middling
> meet just by the Imperial War Museum, if that appeals.
I leave the placing to you, since I know nothink.
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| Re: -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294618 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 07:24 |
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esmi wrote:
> on 04/07/2006 21:14 Cathy Young said the following:
>
> > Hmm. Generally speaking I have around a size 10 waist, size 14 hips and
> > bust.
> >
> > In M&S this translates as
>
> <snip>
>
> And men wonder why it takes women ages to buy clothes.
Because of the conspirary.
The corporate masters are forcing women to spend all their time buying
clothes, so they do not interfere with the work of the Illuminati.
Didn't you know it?
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| Re: [F] Potential London Meets [message #294630 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 08:42 |
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Karen <Karen [at] lspace.org> wrote:
> In article <1hhz4eo.9ex2ayrmjbd5N%aqusenet [at] mailinator.com>, Aquarion
> <aqusenet [at] mailinator.com> writes
> >Dom <domafp [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
>
> >> Well, if you are going to be in town I can usually manage to get there.
> >>
> >> I'm not going to be able to get to the Con, but aim to meet as
> >> many [#]afpers as possible while they in the area.
> >
> >So if we were to say, for example, the Saturday before the Con, at, say,
> >The Green Man in London, then things might start heading in the right
> >direction...
>
>
> How about the Wednesday evening as a pre-Con /warm up meet? A lot of
> visiting afpers arrive via London the day or evening before and could
> join in before hitting the massed horde in Hinckley. It should be easy
> to get the basement for mid week at that time of year. For London
> working people it can be easier than a weekend (since most don't
> actually live centrally). Crash space has generally been pretty
> generously available in London via the meets list - the mix of people
> going/not going should make help that.
>
> Its a while since I organised anything there myself - Barry R or the
> Davisons might well have a better view on the current management, it has
> changed in the last year but it might be nice to go back.
It is supposed to be better again now.
For purely selfish reasons (ie, me not being able to make a Wednesday
meet in London easily or possibly at all) I'd have to say I prefer the
Weekend idea, but whatever the consensus is could happen.
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| Re: [I] Potential London Meets [message #294632 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 08:42 |
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Anastasia <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> Aquarion wrote:
>
> <staciemeet>
>
> > So if we were to say, for example, the Saturday before the Con, at,
> > say, The Green Man in London, then things might start heading in
> > the right direction...
>
> Ohhhhh, so THAT is how it happens.
Organising a meet consists of:
a) Suggesting one or more of the following:
I) A date
II) A time
III) A place
IV) A thing to do. (Optional)
b) listening to all advice on the ones you did and did not specify
c) Collating, deciding, risking disapppointing the people who can't make
the date/time/place you finally decide.
d) Posting an announce.
Organised people might check the pub is not busy/crap/demolished, but I
prefer a more holistic approach.
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294637 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 10:39 |
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Random C <random [at] panatropic.net> wrote:
> Random C wrote:
>> Cathy Young wrote:
>>
>>> (Ah, the perennial AFP bra thread.)
>>>
>> The online measurement guides tell me I'm a 36C. Selfridges tell me I'm
>> a 30 or 32D. Selfridges are right. For the first time *ever* my bras
>> don't hurt.
> Oh, I just looked at another one someone commented about on LJ. *that*
> tells me I'm a 38A.
I don't know much about bra sizes (why am I even reading this?), so I
don't see how there can possibly be any confusion between 38A and 30D.
Aren't they basically exact opposites?
mcv.
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294638 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 10:50 |
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Random C wrote:
[snip]
> 14. In Miss Selfridge, last I tried a size 16 was far too small.
> On pure measurements, I am within a couple of centimetres of the
> apparent fashion-industry ideal size 12 that sample garments are made
> to (or as my drafting tutor put it 'goodness! You're almost a Gloria!
> Except a different *shape*...')
A "Gloria" .......??
--
Ed.
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294640 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 10:52 |
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"Cathy Young" <cathy [at] bentbacktulips.co.uk> wrote in message
news:e8e67n$7qh$1 [at] wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk...
> But then, is the "official" fitting guide *so* far out?
Yes yes yes yes. My wife is in a similar situation to you. Being a breast
kind of a guy I feel blessed with my 30LL wife (okay, she has just had our
second baby, so that's big even for her!)
Oh how we laugh when the "professional" bra fitters declare she's a 40DD or
something absurd like that. I do have to wonder if they are trained to try
and sell the kind of bras that the shop has in stock, rather than what
correctly fits.
As you say Bravissimmo has been a godsend, but unfortuantely my wife seems
to be of a size that strains even their talents, and we tend to be limited
to maternity bras and other outrageous ferats of metalwork & construction.
Delicate & lacy they aren't :*(
Paul
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294642 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 10:57 |
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"MEG" <nospam_MEG_news [at] djelibeybi.idps.co.uk> wrote in message
news:88KdnR13zaC7SDfZnZ2dnUVZ8qidnZ2d [at] bt.com...
> I heartily recommend La Senza in Putney.
If you can fit into the tiny things they sell...
Paul
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294643 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 11:00 |
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"Random C" <random [at] panatropic.net> wrote in message
news:opzqg.96181$wl.61463 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> ...you expect this? Are you that one fabled woman for whom the clothes in
> shops *actually fit*? (In marks and spencers I am somewhere between a 6
> and a 14. From what I can work out, my waist is a 6 and my arse is a 14.
> In Miss Selfridge, last I tried a size 16 was far too small.
> On pure measurements, I am within a couple of centimetres of the apparent
> fashion-industry ideal size 12 that sample garments are made to (or as my
> drafting tutor put it 'goodness! You're almost a Gloria! Except a
> different *shape*...')
Mmmm. I hear you. My wife and I long ago came to the conclusion that women's
clothes are made by men for men to wear, because they just don't seem to
take into account the fact that women have a nice curvy shape as opposed to
being straight up-and-down.
Paul
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294644 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 11:00 |
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Paul Harman wrote:
>
> Yes yes yes yes. My wife is in a similar situation to you. Being a
> breast kind of a guy I feel blessed with my 30LL wife (okay, she has
> just had our second baby, so that's big even for her!)
Here's me wondering if it stands for Linda Lovelace....
Peter
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294647 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 11:07 |
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"Peter Ellis" <pjie2 [at] cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:4h1debF1pb7ujU1 [at] individual.net...
> Paul Harman wrote:
>>
>> Yes yes yes yes. My wife is in a similar situation to you. Being a
>> breast kind of a guy I feel blessed with my 30LL wife (okay, she has
>> just had our second baby, so that's big even for her!)
>
> Here's me wondering if it stands for Linda Lovelace....
<grinz>
Anything bigger than 34DD conjures up images of Lola Ferrari. Actually, what
it really means is that unlike those ugly silicone monstrosities, the breast
doesn't start at the front of the chest and jut straight out, but starts on
the side.
Paul
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294650 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 11:33 |
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 20:28:21 +0100, Cathy Young
<cathy [at] bentbacktulips.co.uk> jotted down:
>Diane L wrote:
>> Cathy Young wrote:
>
>>> In conclusion then, I guess I have pretty much the right size (I
>>> hope). But then, is the "official" fitting guide *so* far out?
>>
>> Yes.
>
>I'm glad everyone keeps saying this; I thought I was going loopy. It's a
>bit weird when there's this One Accepted Way of measuring for a bra, and
>apparently a significant percentage of women for whom it doesn't work at
>all. Makes you wonder who came up with the system in the first place,
>and *why*...
Hey, it doesn't work for me either, and I don't need
specialist shops, having fairly normal sized breasts. So I
wouldn't be surprised if it _only_ works for say, the 75 Bs
(swedish sizing) which seems to be the ideal for being able
to find any kind of bra you like.
--
Elin
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
http://tale.cunobaros.com/
The Oswalds DW casting award - Vote Now!
http://www.student.lu.se/~his02ero/Oswald/index.html
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294652 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 11:36 |
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On 05 Jul 2006 08:39:19 GMT, mcv <mcvmcv [at] xs4all.nl> jotted
down:
>Random C <random [at] panatropic.net> wrote:
>> Random C wrote:
>>> Cathy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>> (Ah, the perennial AFP bra thread.)
>>>>
>>> The online measurement guides tell me I'm a 36C. Selfridges tell me I'm
>>> a 30 or 32D. Selfridges are right. For the first time *ever* my bras
>>> don't hurt.
>> Oh, I just looked at another one someone commented about on LJ. *that*
>> tells me I'm a 38A.
>
>I don't know much about bra sizes (why am I even reading this?), so I
>don't see how there can possibly be any confusion between 38A and 30D.
>Aren't they basically exact opposites?
The size of the cup is different within the cup size
depending on the circumference. So a 38A and a 30D could
well have thhe same size cup, but the woman needing the 30 D
would have to wind the strap twice around her body with the
38A.
--
Elin
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
http://tale.cunobaros.com/
The Oswalds DW casting award - Vote Now!
http://www.student.lu.se/~his02ero/Oswald/index.html
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294653 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 11:40 |
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On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:45:55 +1000, SteveD <usenet [at] vo.id.au>
jotted down:
>On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:50:01 +0100, Cathy Young
><cathy [at] bentbacktulips.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>But then, is the "official" fitting guide *so* far out? Doesn't this
>>mean that it's completely useless as far as finding your size goes?
>
>Yes, and only *mostly* useless.
>
>I think the problem is that two measurements by themselves do not contain
>enough information to allow a perfect fit to be selected. They're more
>like... guidelines.
>
>This is what bra-shop assistants are for, if they know their trade. They
>can take the figures, and *also* get an idea of the actual shape of the
>customer, with a view towards pointing them in the direction of a bra
>mfr/model combination that best suits them.
>
>In order to clear up this confusion, a new bra-measuring system will need
>to be developed that uses more than just those two measurements. Either
>that, or self-adjusting bras will need to be invented.
The thing is though, it should be possible to use a tape
measure to measure what length strap you need, I mean, that
should be very simple.
The trouble is trying to use one calculation to figure out
_both_ strap and cup size.
--
Elin
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| Re: [I] Bra measurement and fitting [message #294657 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 12:00 |
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Ed Weatherup wrote:
> Random C wrote:
> [snip]
>
>> 14. In Miss Selfridge, last I tried a size 16 was far too small.
>> On pure measurements, I am within a couple of centimetres of the
>> apparent fashion-industry ideal size 12 that sample garments are made
>> to (or as my drafting tutor put it 'goodness! You're almost a Gloria!
>> Except a different *shape*...')
>
> A "Gloria" .......??
As in Gaynor. Whatever type of clothes you hand her, her innate style
will survive.
Orjan
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294658 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 11:52 |
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On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 10:00:08 +0100, Paul Harman
<chatterbox [at] doctorwhowebguide.net> wrote:
>
>Mmmm. I hear you. My wife and I long ago came to the conclusion that women's
>clothes are made by men for men to wear,
I can assure this is not the case. For a start the shoulders would be
wider and the hips narrower.
--
Andy Brown
Happiness, n.:
An agreeable sensation arising from contemplating the misery of
another.
-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294663 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 12:11 |
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On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 10:00:08 +0100, "Paul Harman"
<chatterbox [at] doctorwhowebguide.net> jotted down:
>"Random C" <random [at] panatropic.net> wrote in message
>news:opzqg.96181$wl.61463 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> ...you expect this? Are you that one fabled woman for whom the clothes in
>> shops *actually fit*? (In marks and spencers I am somewhere between a 6
>> and a 14. From what I can work out, my waist is a 6 and my arse is a 14.
>> In Miss Selfridge, last I tried a size 16 was far too small.
>> On pure measurements, I am within a couple of centimetres of the apparent
>> fashion-industry ideal size 12 that sample garments are made to (or as my
>> drafting tutor put it 'goodness! You're almost a Gloria! Except a
>> different *shape*...')
>
>
>Mmmm. I hear you. My wife and I long ago came to the conclusion that women's
>clothes are made by men for men to wear, because they just don't seem to
>take into account the fact that women have a nice curvy shape as opposed to
>being straight up-and-down.
I think they're made for models - ie women who look like
young men in their mid teens only skinnier...
My dad has a theory that this is because fashion designers
tend to be gay men, but probably it's just because women
shaped like clothes racks are much easier to fit.
Anyhow, it would be nice with clothes that took those of us
who are towars the more hour-glassy end of the shape
spectrum into account - allowing for a waist that is quite a
bit narrower than what's above and below it.
--
Elin
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
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The Oswalds DW casting award - Vote Now!
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294673 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 12:59 |
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:50:01 +0100, Cathy Young wrote:
> (Ah, the perennial AFP bra thread.)
On seeing this thread I was sooo tempted to make my usual offer of:
I'm in a wheelchair, so if your back gets sore you can always rest them on
my head
But I thought better of it[1]
[1] Oops ;)
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Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294674 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 13:00 |
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 20:35:30 +0100, Lister wrote:
> *snigger*
--F+T
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Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294677 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 13:04 |
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 20:02:36 +0000, Anastasia wrote:
> Never let it be said, either, that I don't send pics where there's even a
> hint of a polite request.
> http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/esmeraldus/ICFA_1.jpg
The words 'cold' 'shower' and 'omigod' spring to mind :)
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Julian Hall
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| Re: -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294678 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 13:08 |
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 13:54:07 -0700, Jenny Delaney wrote:
> So I went across the street to Selfridges and was told 34 and
> a letter that wasn't too far off my first initial.
Rrrr Jim lad.. there be bras... oops sorry wrong thread :)[1]
[1] Maybe even wrong group - I get so confused ;)
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Julian Hall
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294680 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 13:09 |
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On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 09:57:09 +0100, Paul Harman wrote:
> If you can fit into the tiny things they sell...
>
> Paul
I'm marginally concerne... no never mind... :)
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Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294681 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 13:14 |
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 21:14:03 +0100, Cathy Young wrote:
> Hmm. Generally speaking I have around a size 10 waist, size 14 hips and
> bust.
My Mum's theory on this is fashion. She's in her 60s so obviously doesn't
*like* the skin-tight show-off-the-stomach fashions for younger ladies.
So she ends up buying a size or two larger because the cut of the clothes
at her proper size doesn't cover enough. Of course for different parts of
the body this varies, so I suppose the size would too.
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Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294682 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 13:17 |
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 22:12:10 +0100, esmi wrote:
> And men wonder why it takes women ages to buy clothes.
No we don't. We use the same principle as a highwayman who has just
offered a dwarf the choice 'Your money or your life!'
AKA a folding chair and packed lunch, with a good book to read while the
discussion takes place.
In extreme cases a sleeping bag.
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Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294683 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 13:20 |
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On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 12:11:25 +0200, Graycat wrote:
> My dad has a theory that this is because fashion designers tend to be gay
> men, but probably it's just because women shaped like clothes racks are
> much easier to fit.
And the man who invented the woman shaped clothes rack accidentally
brutally slapped himself to death with his tape measure.
Allegedly.
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Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294684 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 13:21 |
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On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 11:33:41 +0200, Graycat wrote:
> _only_ works for say, the 75 Bs (swedish sizing)
I'm glad you mentioned Swedish size - my eyes were watering ;)
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Julian Hall
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294687 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 13:24 |
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On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:39:19 +0000, mcv wrote:
> I don't know much about bra sizes (why am I even reading this?)
And how did you get this far down the thread? ;)
*thinks to self* so did you, now shush before anyone notices!
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Julian Hall
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294688 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 13:28 |
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On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 10:07:08 +0100, Paul Harman wrote:
> Anything bigger than 34DD conjures up images of Lola Ferrari. Actually,
> what it really means is that unlike those ugly silicone monstrosities, the
> breast doesn't start at the front of the chest and jut straight out, but
> starts on the side.
>
> Paul
Here's me thinking it may be the only bra I've heard of that requires a
soldering iron for running repairs ;)
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Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294698 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 13:57 |
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It all started on Wed, 05 Jul 2006 12:24:50 +0100, when CeltiKaos wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:39:19 +0000, mcv wrote:
>
>> I don't know much about bra sizes (why am I even reading this?)
>
> And how did you get this far down the thread? ;)
>
> *thinks to self* so did you, now shush before anyone notices!
Well, I got this far because I got intrigued by all the interesting sizes.
EEs and Fs and even LLs... it made me think that at some point bras should
switch over from being sold by size to being sold by volume.
...PeterH
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