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Re: [I] Exposure to televangelists // was Happy 4th [message #297457 ] Di, 11 Juli 2006 20:39
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
The time: 11 Jul 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: Richard Heathfield <invalid [at] invalid.invalid>


> So - I sometimes see televangelists on friends' sat/cab TV
> on a so-called "God channel". The UK version is a lot
> mellower than the frenetic US style that is such a cliche',
> but even so the underlying message was very clear: Send...
> Money...

I'd no idea we had such a thing. We've recently extended from
Freeview to basic Payview[1], and I've not stumbed across it, so
it must be on Pay-Even-More-View, alongside "Justice League".
And *then* they ask for *more* money?

[1] And will probably be cancelling it shortly[2] following my
discovery that we get the channel which has "Justice League
Unlimited" for four hours a week, and it's all Pokemon.

[2]Unless Mum gets addicted to UK Gold or something, which is
possible but unlikely.

--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
Suggs against sexism. It's Madness gone
politically correct.
Jon Holmes, The Now Show 26/5/06
Re: [I] Exposure to televangelists // was Happy 4th [message #299753 ] Sa, 15 Juli 2006 12:37
tms  
Richard Heathfield wrote:
>
> So - I sometimes see televangelists on friends' sat/cab TV on a so-called
> "God channel". The UK version is a lot mellower than the frenetic US style
> that is such a cliche', but even so the underlying message was very clear:
> Send... Money...

As opposed to preachers/ministers/priests in regular churches,
whose message is: Put money in the plate we're passing around.

--
Thomas M. Sommers -- tms [at] nj.net -- AB2SB
Re: [I] Exposure to televangelists // was Happy 4th [message #299771 ] Sa, 15 Juli 2006 15:13
Brenda  
T.M. Sommers said:

> Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>
>> So - I sometimes see televangelists on friends' sat/cab TV on a so-called
>> "God channel". The UK version is a lot mellower than the frenetic US
>> style that is such a cliche', but even so the underlying message was very
>> clear: Send... Money...
>
> As opposed to preachers/ministers/priests in regular churches,
> whose message is: Put money in the plate we're passing around.

In every church I've ever been a member of, it's always been made very clear
before a collection that it is the responsibility of the members, not
visitors, to support the work of the church, and that nobody should feel
obliged to make a contribution. And the money is generally spent on
terribly boring things - rent, heat, lighting, water rates, stuff like that
- and worthy causes such as foreign aid. It does not get spent on fast cars
and big houses. If you doubt me, go have a chat with your vicar.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
Re: [I] Exposure to televangelists // was Happy 4th [message #299786 ] Sa, 15 Juli 2006 18:47
Brian Howlett  
On 15 Jul, Richard Heathfield wrote:

[snip]

> In every church I've ever been a member of, it's always been made very
> clear before a collection that it is the responsibility of the
> members, not visitors, to support the work of the church, and that
> nobody should feel obliged to make a contribution. And the money is
> generally spent on terribly boring things - rent, heat, lighting,
> water rates, stuff like that - and worthy causes such as foreign aid.
> It does not get spent on fast cars and big houses. If you doubt me, go
> have a chat with your vicar.
>
What, go round to his big house and wait while he finishes polishing
his fast car?

;)
--
Brian Howlett - Email to From: address deleted unseen
------------------------------------------------------------ -
People who live in glass houses should undress in the dark...
Re: [I] Exposure to televangelists // was Happy 4th [message #301607 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 02:28
tms  
Richard Heathfield wrote:
> T.M. Sommers said:
>>Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>
>>>So - I sometimes see televangelists on friends' sat/cab TV on a so-called
>>>"God channel". The UK version is a lot mellower than the frenetic US
>>>style that is such a cliche', but even so the underlying message was very
>>>clear: Send... Money...
>>
>>As opposed to preachers/ministers/priests in regular churches,
>>whose message is: Put money in the plate we're passing around.
>
> In every church I've ever been a member of, it's always been made very clear
> before a collection that it is the responsibility of the members, not
> visitors, to support the work of the church, and that nobody should feel
> obliged to make a contribution.

I've never seen that in any church I've attended.

--
Thomas M. Sommers -- tms [at] nj.net -- AB2SB
Re: [I] Exposure to televangelists // was Happy 4th [message #302260 ] Sa, 22 Juli 2006 09:46
Brenda  
T.M. Sommers said:

> Richard Heathfield wrote:
<snip>
>>
>> In every church I've ever been a member of, it's always been made very
>> clear before a collection that it is the responsibility of the members,
>> not visitors, to support the work of the church, and that nobody should
>> feel obliged to make a contribution.
>
> I've never seen that in any church I've attended.

It's very common in the UK. Not universal, of course. If a church fellowship
is begging strangers for money[1], there's something badly wrong with it.


[1] ...on its own behalf. If they're trying to raise money for Romanian
orphanages or Ethiopian medical centres or whatever, that's a completely
different matter. The world is everybody's responsibility.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
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