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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » [I] Water voles
| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #299317 ] |
Mi, 12 Juli 2006 18:50 |
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:27:02 +0100, Julian Hall
<lists [at] removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:31:13 +0100, Lister wrote:
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>> Ah, sounds like the infamous "Twangers" episode of "Rainbow"
>
>Except this one was broadcast and wasn't just a putup job for the TV
>company Xmas Party.
So I see. :)
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #299404 ] |
Do, 13 Juli 2006 12:20 |
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:40:04 +1000, a collection of particles arranged in
such a way as to form a person that we would recognise as Diane L,
influenced tha intarweb to propagate the following:
> At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
> Simpsons porn site.
<cue music> " The Spam..sons</cue music>
C:\>
(I didn't bother to take my coat _off_)
--
"Where do want to go today?" "I'm thinking http://gentoo.org"
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #299417 ] |
Do, 13 Juli 2006 16:17 |
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:20:44 +1000, the Tinfoil Hat of Reason wrote:
> <cue music> " The Spam..sons</cue music>
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> C:\>
> (I didn't bother to take my coat _off_)
Or as an alternative...
Spamstones meet the Spamstones,
They're a modern spamming family,
From the, East of Europe[1]
At least it saves a lot of trees
(Start the car! ;))
[1] Chosen for no other reason than it fitted the melody :)
--
Kind regards,
Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #299454 ] |
Do, 13 Juli 2006 20:13 |
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The time: 12 Jul 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: "Aggie Angst" <aggieangst [at] myinvalidway.com>
> Julian Hall wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:24:29 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
>>
>>> Yargh! I hope her dress was long enough.
>
>> Regrettably probably not or I doubt the deficit in the
>> underwear department would have been spotted.
>
> What bothers me, is that there's someone out there looking
> in the first place.
> It's a cartoon!
> ;)
OTOH, so's Pamela Anderson...
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Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
Suggs against sexism. It's Madness gone
politically correct.
Jon Holmes, The Now Show 26/5/06
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #299480 ] |
Do, 13 Juli 2006 23:13 |
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:13:04 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> OTOH, so's Pamela Anderson...
She's a bit 3D for a cartoon :)
--
Kind regards,
Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"
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| Re: [I] Water voles [message #299608 ] |
Fr, 14 Juli 2006 16:33 |
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Richard Bos wrote:
> MetaMary <mks_mary [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>And be trusted to govern, too. If I didn't think the average
>>person could make wise decisions about how to run a country, I'd
>>have to oppose any kind of democracy.
> I don't believe for a second that any single person could make wise
> enough decisions about running a country, but I do believe that sixty
> million mostly fools, averaged together, will probably, in the long run,
> manage better than any small, self-selected group of management types.
True... But true for *any* single person, however high their IQ
score. Only we do have individuals in charge of things to a
certain extent, government officials and representatives, and I'm
saying I'd prefer that those individuals come from all walks of
life. High IQ scores tend to come from certain narrow demographics.
>>Any kind of intelligence test for office holding or voting
>>strikes me as elitist. I'd rather have a sincerity test.
> And yet the idea is at least as old as Plato. I don't care about the
> elitist part. If there really _were_ an elite that could be relied on to
> run the country better than an often-changed elected government, I'd be
> all for it;
I guess so... But different groups have different interests, and
even an elite that was capable of any kind of arcane problem
solving might still end up serving its own interests, at the
expense of others, most of the time. So I'd rather have
representatives of all groups.
> but I do not believe that there is such an elite. Even more
> importantly, I believe even if there were one, we wouldn't be able to
> find it. Never mind intelligence and sincerity tests; we would need a
> wisdom test, and there ain't no such beast. And all attempts to draw one
> up would, I fear, result in a power-hunger-and-media-genius test in
> disguise.
Yeah, exactly.
-Mary
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The blog I said I'd never write --
http://viewfromthecorner.blogspot.com
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #299876 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 06:50 |
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Diane L wrote:
> Aggie Angst wrote:
>> Julian Hall wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:24:29 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yargh! I hope her dress was long enough.
>>
>>> Regrettably probably not or I doubt the deficit in the underwear
>>> department would have been spotted.
>>
>> What bothers me, is that there's someone out there looking in the
>> first place.
>> It's a cartoon!
>> ;)
>
> At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
> Simpsons porn site.
>
Okay. I'm gonna need a really long shower and maybe some penicillin.
I don't even like to think about that one.
8o
Aggie
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #299877 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 06:54 |
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The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:
> In article ,
> Julian Hall <lists [at] removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:24:29 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
>>
>>> Yargh! I hope her dress was long enough.
>>>>>
>>> Aggie
>>
>> Regrettably probably not or I doubt the deficit in the underwear
>> department would have been spotted.
>
> IIRC it wasn't spotted by either the censors or the audience. It was
> just a quick flash (hur hur) and an animators' in-joke.
>
> Anyway, why "regrettably"? Have you seen Betty? When she did that
> cameo in "Roger Rabbit" she completely outshone Jessica Rabbit in the
> sexiness department and that was 58 years after her first film!
>
> Hubba hubba! [eyes springing out, tongue unrolling across the floor,
> steam coming out of ears etc.]
>
Yes and oddly enough I don't get steamed up over:
1. girlies
2. imaginary characters
Aggie ***invokes the spirit of Esme Weatherwax***
Somebody has to be the disapproving spinster...
;)
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #299888 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 10:20 |
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On 16 Jul, Aggie Angst wrote:
> Diane L wrote:
[snip]
>> At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
>> Simpsons porn site.
>>
> Okay. I'm gonna need a really long shower and maybe some penicillin.
> I don't even like to think about that one.
>
I wonder if Torak's still got the brain bleach...
--
Brian Howlett - Email to From: address deleted unseen
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All electronic components run on smoke.
If you let the smoke out, they stop working...
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #299895 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 12:39 |
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Aggie Angst wrote:
> Diane L wrote:
<snip>
>> At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
>> Simpsons porn site.
>>
> Okay. I'm gonna need a really long shower and maybe some penicillin.
> I don't even like to think about that one.
I was, if possible, worse than that. I think I'll leave a little 'squick'
space for those who don't want to know any more...
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The *really* disturbing thing, even more disturbing than the notion
of Simpsons porn in the first place, was that the spam made a big
thing of the incest and under-age aspects of the porn. Leaving me
with two thoughts
1) They're cartoon characters, FGS!
and
2) Ewwwwwww!!!
Diane L.
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #299900 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 13:15 |
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 11:39:15 +0100, "Diane L"
<dianenews [at] lindquist.plus.com> wrote:
>Aggie Angst wrote:
>> Diane L wrote:
><snip>
>>> At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
>>> Simpsons porn site.
>>>
>> Okay. I'm gonna need a really long shower and maybe some penicillin.
>> I don't even like to think about that one.
>
>I was, if possible, worse than that. I think I'll leave a little 'squick'
>space for those who don't want to know any more...
>
>s
>p
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>The *really* disturbing thing, even more disturbing than the notion
>of Simpsons porn in the first place, was that the spam made a big
>thing of the incest and under-age aspects of the porn. Leaving me
>with two thoughts
>1) They're cartoon characters, FGS!
>and
>2) Ewwwwwww!!!
>
>Diane L.
>
Oh, that. VERY old spam.
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| [I] lobbying [message #299909 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 16:33 |
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> >Influence peddling is nasty business no matter who is doing it. Big
> >business dictates so much of what Washington does these days, it might as
>
> Does it help if I tell you it's exactly the same in Germany?
> I thought not.
> Sorry.
Does it help anyone if I remind you that this has been going on in the
USA for the last 230 years, and that it's been worse at times during our
history?
Thought not, as well.
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| Re: [I] lobbying [message #299916 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 16:54 |
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Boyd Bottorff <nomail [at] nomail.com> wrote:
>>> Influence peddling is nasty business no matter who is doing it. Big
>>> business dictates so much of what Washington does these days, it
>>> might as
>>
>> Does it help if I tell you it's exactly the same in Germany?
>> I thought not.
>> Sorry.
>
> Does it help anyone if I remind you that this has been going on in the
> USA for the last 230 years, and that it's been worse at times during
> our history?
>
> Thought not, as well.
Does it help to point out that "worse" without a specification of what
was[1] measured is a purely subjective term?
[1]: Or, in this case, I supect /wasn't/ is a better word.
Regards,
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*Art
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| Re: [I] lobbying [message #299922 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 17:26 |
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> >>> Influence peddling is nasty business no matter who is doing it. Big
> >>> business dictates so much of what Washington does these days, it
> >>> might as
<snip>
> > Does it help anyone if I remind you that this has been going on in the
> > USA for the last 230 years, and that it's been worse at times during
> > our history?
> >
> > Thought not, as well.
>
> Does it help to point out that "worse" without a specification of what
> was[1] measured is a purely subjective term?
Yeah, but you're going to have a hard time quantifying the amount of
lobbying that goes on, or ever has gone on.
My benchmark was the fact that the railroads, and to a lesser extent,
other high-bucks industries from (very) roughly 1850 to 1920 didn't
bother to hide the fact that they had politicians in their pockets, and
instead of suggesting improvements to laws, practically handed the
politicians the finished product to sign. Plus there wasn't much in the
way of organized resistance, so the lobbying tended to be one-sided.
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| Re: [I] lobbying [message #299923 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 17:51 |
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Boyd Bottorff wrote:
>> >>> Influence peddling is nasty business no matter who is doing it. Big
>> >>> business dictates so much of what Washington does these days, it
>> >>> might as
>
> <snip>
Boyd, why is it that you never include attributions?
Is it that you believe it's irrelevant who says what - that the
individuality of participants in a Usenet conversation should be
abstracted away leaving nothing but a sort of impersonal husk: an
abstract object of type Conversant whose ID is a private member?
Or, alternatively, do you have a reason that isn't totally insane?
Adrian.
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| Re: [I] lobbying [message #299930 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 19:06 |
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Boyd Bottorff <nomail [at] nomail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, but you're going to have a hard time quantifying the amount of
> lobbying that goes on, or ever has gone on.
True. One thing that can be quantified is campaign distributions (no-one
would make one without expecting results back). And it seems to me to be at
a record high.
Regards,
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*Art
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| Re: [I] lobbying [message #299936 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 19:49 |
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In article <e9drn8$rj3$1 [at] tree.broomstick.com>, art [at] broomstick.com
says...
> Boyd Bottorff <nomail [at] nomail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, but you're going to have a hard time quantifying the amount of
> > lobbying that goes on, or ever has gone on.
>
> True. One thing that can be quantified is campaign distributions (no-one
> would make one without expecting results back). And it seems to me to be at
> a record high.
But there are two ways campaign contributions could be interpreted.
Version one, the legitimate version:
A1. Politician declared his policies.
A2. People and companies who support those policies help him get
elected.
Version two, the illegitimate version:
B1. Companies tell politicians what policies they would like to see.
B2. Politicain alters his policies to be similar to those the company
wants.
B3. Companies give thsa tpolitician money, saying that all they are
doing is A2.
Even in case A, donors are expecting results; but the politician will
deliver those results because (presumably) he believes in them. In cas
B, the money is twisting the politician as well as influencing the vote.
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #299950 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 20:44 |
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Diane L wrote:
> Aggie Angst wrote:
>> Diane L wrote:
> <snip>
>>> At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
>>> Simpsons porn site.
>>>
>> Okay. I'm gonna need a really long shower and maybe some penicillin.
>> I don't even like to think about that one.
>
> I was, if possible, worse than that. I think I'll leave a little
> 'squick' space for those who don't want to know any more...
>
> s
> p
> a
> c
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>
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> The *really* disturbing thing, even more disturbing than the notion
> of Simpsons porn in the first place, was that the spam made a big
> thing of the incest and under-age aspects of the porn. Leaving me
> with two thoughts
> 1) They're cartoon characters, FGS!
> and
> 2) Ewwwwwww!!!
>
I don't understand people who think like this. I'm not attempting to be
superior here, it's just a statement of fact. Never in my life would I have
ever thought of Simpson's porn. My psyche is incapable of producing these
kinds of images on its own. But to think of it being used as a tool by
pedophiles and baby rapers to do their nasty deeds makes me see little red
spots in front of my eyes.
Aggie
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #299951 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 20:47 |
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Brian Howlett wrote:
> On 16 Jul, Aggie Angst wrote:
>
>> Diane L wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>> At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
>>> Simpsons porn site.
>>>
>> Okay. I'm gonna need a really long shower and maybe some penicillin.
>> I don't even like to think about that one.
>>
> I wonder if Torak's still got the brain bleach...
I hope so. I've got porn spam headers stuck in my brain from spams I didn't
even open because of the truly scary titles. The last words from my
deathbed will probably be, "Zoogirl love her pony." :(
Aggie
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #300004 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 02:28 |
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:54:52 +1000, a collection of particles arranged in
such a way as to form a person that we would recognise as Aggie Angst,
influenced tha intarweb to propagate the following:
> Aggie ***invokes the spirit of Esme Weatherwax*** Somebody has to be the
> disapproving spinster...
Aggie, may I borrow that? My sigmonster is nipping my ankles again...
C:\>
--
"Where do want to go today?" "I'm thinking http://gentoo.org"
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #300008 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 03:56 |
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Aggie Angst wrote:
> Diane L wrote:
>>>> At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
>>>> Simpsons porn site.
[...]
>> I was, if possible, worse than that. I think I'll leave a little
>> 'squick' space for those who don't want to know any more...
Why? They are, as you say, "cartoon characters, FGS!"
>> s
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>> The *really* disturbing thing, even more disturbing than the notion
>> of Simpsons porn in the first place, was that the spam made a big
>> thing of the incest and under-age aspects of the porn. Leaving me
>> with two thoughts
>> 1) They're cartoon characters, FGS!
>> and
>> 2) Ewwwwwww!!!
>
> I don't understand people who think like this. I'm not attempting to be
> superior here, it's just a statement of fact. Never in my life would I have
> ever thought of Simpson's porn. My psyche is incapable of producing these
> kinds of images on its own. But to think of it being used as a tool by
> pedophiles and baby rapers to do their nasty deeds makes me see little red
> spots in front of my eyes.
Has anyone yet mentioned the classic bit from _Red Dwarf_?
"After perhaps ninety hours of watching the Flintstones, something
strange seemed to happen to Lister.
'Cat,' he grunted, without removing his eyes from the screen.
'Umf?' the Cat grunted back.
'Is it me, or is Wilma Flintstone incredibly sexy?'
The Cat swivelled and looked at him, then turned his head back
to the screen.
'Wilma Flinstone,' he said with quiet authority, 'is without
question the most desirable woman who ever lived.'
Lister looked at him, to see if he was serious. He was. 'That's
good,' he said. 'I thought I was going a bit whacko. What d'you
think of Betty?'
'Betty Rubble?' The Cat mulled it over. 'We-ell, I would /go/
with Betty,' he said, then added whistfully: 'but I'd be thinking
of Wilma.'
They both lapsed into silen teverie.
'What are we doing?' Lister said, finally. 'I think we've been
in the medical unit for too long. Why are we talking about making
love to Wilma Flintstone?'
'You're right,' the Cat agreed. 'We're nuts. This is an insane
conversation.'
Lister shook his head, sadly. 'She'd never leave Fred, and we
know it."
Someone had to mention it.
Adrian.
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #301326 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 23:17 |
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 11:39:15 +0100, Diane L wrote:
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> The *really* disturbing thing, even more disturbing than the notion
> of Simpsons porn in the first place, was that the spam made a big
> thing of the incest and under-age aspects of the porn. Leaving me
> with two thoughts
> 1) They're cartoon characters, FGS!
> and
> 2) Ewwwwwww!!!
>
> Diane L.
Think yourself lucky you weren't sent the actual pictures. I was once.
Yeesh!
--
Kind regards,
Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"
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Di, 18 Juli 2006 00:41 |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:17:32 +0100, Julian Hall wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 11:39:15 +0100, Diane L wrote:
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>> The *really* disturbing thing, even more disturbing than the notion of
>> Simpsons porn in the first place, was that the spam made a big thing of
>> the incest and under-age aspects of the porn. Leaving me with two
>> thoughts
>> 1) They're cartoon characters, FGS!
>> and
>> 2) Ewwwwwww!!!
>
> Think yourself lucky you weren't sent the actual pictures. I was once.
>
> Yeesh!
When I was 11 I was sent pictures of a woman and a horse, the sender sent
them to everyone he knew the email address of at school (he was in my
class). Back then quite a few people shared email addresses with their
parents (including me, but luckily I saw the mail first and deleted it, no
doubt I'd have been banned from the Internet for months had it been found
by my mum).
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Matt
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Di, 18 Juli 2006 12:18 |
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 13:47:33 -0500, Aggie Angst wrote:
> I hope so. I've got porn spam headers stuck in my brain from spams I didn't
> even open because of the truly scary titles. The last words from my
> deathbed will probably be, "Zoogirl love her pony." :(
>
> Aggie
She probably has a nice pink 'My Little Pony' that she sits and combs the
hair of all day. Her Daddy's a zookeeper *helpful look*
--
Kind regards,
Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"
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| Re: [I] lobbying [message #301819 ] |
Mi, 19 Juli 2006 23:58 |
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nomail [at] nomail.com (Boyd Bottorff) wrote:
> My benchmark was the fact that the railroads, and to a lesser extent,
> other high-bucks industries from (very) roughly 1850 to 1920 didn't
> bother to hide the fact that they had politicians in their pockets, and
> instead of suggesting improvements to laws, practically handed the
> politicians the finished product to sign. Plus there wasn't much in the
> way of organized resistance, so the lobbying tended to be one-sided.
*cough*Haliburton*cough*
Richard
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #302038 ] |
Fr, 21 Juli 2006 04:57 |
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the Tinfoil Hat of Reason wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:54:52 +1000, a collection of particles
> arranged in such a way as to form a person that we would recognise as
> Aggie Angst, influenced tha intarweb to propagate the following:
>
>> Aggie ***invokes the spirit of Esme Weatherwax*** Somebody has to be
>> the disapproving spinster...
>
> Aggie, may I borrow that? My sigmonster is nipping my ankles again...
>
> C:\>
Absolutely, and sorry it took me so long to reply. I've been in server
hell.
:)
Aggie
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| Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles [message #302444 ] |
So, 23 Juli 2006 11:42 |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 12:57:03 +1000, a collection of particles arranged in
such a way as to form a person that we would recognise as Aggie Angst,
influenced tha intarweb to propagate the following:
> the Tinfoil Hat of Reason wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:54:52 +1000, a collection of particles arranged
>> in such a way as to form a person that we would recognise as Aggie
>> Angst, influenced tha intarweb to propagate the following:
>>
>>> Aggie ***invokes the spirit of Esme Weatherwax*** Somebody has to be
>>> the disapproving spinster...
>>
>> Aggie, may I borrow that? My sigmonster is nipping my ankles again...
>>
>> C:\>
>
> Absolutely, and sorry it took me so long to reply. I've been in server
> hell.
> :)
> Aggie
Thank you, I've been suffering a bit of orkload myself.
*snoozing purring sigmonster*
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