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Science Fiction » alt.startrek » trek
| Re: trek [message #299145 ] |
Fr, 14 Juli 2006 01:11 |
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Daniel wrote:
> OED:
>
>>>
>>> "quantum jump, an abrupt transition between one stationary state of a
>>> quantized system and another, with the absorption or emission of a
>>> quantum; also transf., a sudden large increase or advance; quantum
>>> leap, a sudden large advance; cf. quantum jump;"
>>>
>>> But of course "quantum" was in use hundreds of years before Prof
>>> Planck and his chums.
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>> So was the word "electron", but we don't use it the old way these
>> days.
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> In what way do "we" use electron these days that is different to the old
> day?
>
> Negatively charged particle to me, although I might accept that the
> electron is actually just a construct to explain the effect/behaviour of
> three or four sub-particles of matter.
Some of the D&D style games use either "electron" or "electrum" to mean
a super-hard, light metal.
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Rob Bannister
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| Re: trek [message #299163 ] |
Fr, 14 Juli 2006 04:27 |
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Robert Bannister <robban [at] it.net.au> writes:
> Some of the D&D style games use either "electron" or "electrum" to
> mean a super-hard, light metal.
I've never seen 'electron'; out of curiosity, what games use that
spelling?
-=Eric
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| Re: trek [message #299164 ] |
Fr, 14 Juli 2006 12:03 |
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Kevin S. Wilson wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:27:55 +1000, Daniel <dxmm [at] nospam.albury.net.au>
> wrote:
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>> I think Albert Einstein (sp??)
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> Um . . . spelling, indeed. That would be "Alfred Einstein."
>
> An understandable mistake, though, given the similarity of the two
> names.
Of course you are right, what a fool I am. And, it seems, the smartz
gene is fairly strong in the Einstein family.
Daniel
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| Re: trek [message #299182 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 04:13 |
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Robert Bannister wrote:
> Some of the D&D style games use either "electron" or "electrum" to mean
> a super-hard, light metal.
You're entirely correct, if, by "use either `electron' or `electrum' to
mean a super-hard, light metal", you mean "don't use `electron' for any
sort of metal, but do use `electrum' in its historical meaning of `an
alloy of gold and silver', and also use `adamantium' to mean a
super-hard, light metal."
Congratulations on you're accuracy!
(aside to Kevin's Wilson: don't bother to correct Mr. Bannister, I
think this about covers it.)
Oh, and in case anyone is curious, D&D didn't make up "orichalcum",
either. They did make up "mithril", however.
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| Re: trek [message #299183 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 05:08 |
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In article <1152929639.548282.198800 [at] m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
Talysman the Ur-Beatle <talysman [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>Oh, and in case anyone is curious, D&D didn't make up "orichalcum",
>either. They did make up "mithril", however.
And my office is full of orpiment! Or at least it will be if I don't get
all that realgar into airtight lightsafe containers.
plorkwort.
--
A girl and a boy bump into each other -- surely an accident.
A girl and a boy bump and her handkerchief drops -- surely another accident.
But when a girl gives a boy a dead squid -- *that had to mean something*.
-- S. Morganstern, "The Silent Gondoliers"
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| Re: trek [message #299187 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 18:22 |
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On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 03:08:32 +0000 (UTC), plorkwort wrote:
>And my office is full of orpiment!
Forgetting where I had seen that word recently, my first thought was to
search news stories. I came up with one from 1250 A.D.
¬R - we don't have branes made of clockworks, chocolate maidens
http://users.bestweb.net/~notr/arkville.html --the Ur-beatle
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| Re: trek [message #299196 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 06:33 |
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Glenn Knickerbocker wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 03:08:32 +0000 (UTC), plorkwort wrote:
> >And my office is full of orpiment!
>
> Forgetting where I had seen that word recently, my first thought was to
> search news stories. I came up with one from 1250 A.D.
Because the internet was much slower and more primitive back then, that
news story was probably only posted this year.
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| Re: trek [message #299203 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 03:52 |
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Talysman the Ur-Beatle wrote:
> Robert Bannister wrote:
> > Some of the D&D style games use either "electron" or "electrum" to mean
> > a super-hard, light metal.
>
> You're entirely correct, if, by "use either `electron' or `electrum' to
> mean a super-hard, light metal", you mean "don't use `electron' for any
> sort of metal, but do use `electrum' in its historical meaning of `an
> alloy of gold and silver', and also use `adamantium' to mean a
> super-hard, light metal."
>
> Congratulations on you're accuracy!
>
> (aside to Kevin's Wilson: don't bother to correct Mr. Bannister, I
> think this about covers it.)
>
> Oh, and in case anyone is curious, D&D didn't make up "orichalcum",
> either. They did make up "mithril", however.
I thought mithryl was Sindarin....."mithr" meaning silvery..
that would predate D&D
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| Re: trek [message #299204 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 03:55 |
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Black-Box Abstraction wrote:
> I thought mithryl was Sindarin....."mithr" meaning silvery..
> that would predate D&D
correcting myself....
mithril* [m=CB=88i=CE=B8ril=CC=A1] n. true-silver, a silver-like metal =E2=
=97=87 LotR =E2=97=87
mith+rill "grey brilliance"
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| Re: trek [message #299209 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 11:26 |
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On 2006-07-17, Black-Box Abstraction <ridd1emethis [at] aim.com> wrote:
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> Black-Box Abstraction wrote:
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>> I thought mithryl was Sindarin....."mithr" meaning silvery..
>> that would predate D&D
>
> correcting myself....
> mithril* [mˈiθril̡] n. true-silver, a silver-like metal ◇ LotR ◇
> mith+rill "grey brilliance"
It's in the OED, and four of the six citations are from JRR Tolkien.
--
Vielen Dank
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| Re: trek [message #300995 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 16:44 |
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"plorkwort" <asw [at] TheWorld.com> wrote
>>Oh, and in case anyone is curious, D&D didn't make up "orichalcum",
>>either. They did make up "mithril", however.
>
> And my office is full of orpiment! Or at least it will be if I don't get
> all that realgar into airtight lightsafe containers.
You are Elven, yes yesss.
--oTTo--
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| Re: trek [message #301000 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 19:16 |
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On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:22:33 -0400, Glenn Knickerbocker wrote:
>On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 03:08:32 +0000 (UTC), plorkwort wrote:
>>And my office is full of orpiment!
>
>Forgetting where I had seen that word recently, my first thought was to
>search news stories. I came up with one from 1250 A.D.
"Trug" was a new old word I read in "The Lighthouse" last night.
Damned P.D. James and her thesaurus.
--
Chris McG.
Harming humanity since 1951.
"My dog ate my gratitude journal." -- Paula
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| Re: trek [message #301001 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 21:33 |
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Chris McGonnell wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:22:33 -0400, Glenn Knickerbocker wrote:
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>>On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 03:08:32 +0000 (UTC), plorkwort wrote:
>>
>>>And my office is full of orpiment!
>>
>>Forgetting where I had seen that word recently, my first thought was to
>>search news stories. I came up with one from 1250 A.D.
>
>
> "Trug" was a new old word I read in "The Lighthouse" last night.
> Damned P.D. James and her thesaurus.
Read Gene Wolfe's "Book of the New Sun" quadrilogy/pentology sometime.
From Chapter I and II of Shadow of the Torturer:
Barbican, gallipots, mystes, badelaire, dholes, amschaspand, arctother,
matachin, exultant, cacogen, wildgrave, burgess, nenuphars, khan.
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| Re: trek [message #301006 ] |
Di, 18 Juli 2006 01:42 |
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Adam Funk wrote:
> On 2006-07-17, Black-Box Abstraction <ridd1emethis [at] aim.com> wrote:
>>
>> Black-Box Abstraction wrote:
>>
>>> I thought mithryl was Sindarin....."mithr" meaning silvery..
>>> that would predate D&D
>>
>> correcting myself....
>> mithril* [m'i?ril?] n. true-silver, a silver-like metal ? LotR ?
>> mith+rill "grey brilliance"
>
> It's in the OED, and four of the six citations are from JRR Tolkien.
Well, that version is in the draft revision of June 2002. The OED CD has
"mithril" with only Tolkien cites.
--
John Dean
Oxford
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| Re: trek [message #301010 ] |
Di, 18 Juli 2006 05:03 |
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asw [at] TheWorld.com (plorkwort) writes:
>In article <1152929639.548282.198800 [at] m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
>Talysman the Ur-Beatle <talysman [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>Oh, and in case anyone is curious, D&D didn't make up "orichalcum",
>>either. They did make up "mithril", however.
>And my office is full of orpiment! Or at least it will be if I don't get
>all that realgar into airtight lightsafe containers.
Realgar shouldn't photodecay into orpiment, but into pararealgar (AsS).
acetobacter light budget
Real --------------> realgar -------------> pararealgar ------> leceptionist
--
"Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of sXXXch, Joe
... or the right of the people peaceably to XXXemble, and to Bay
peXXXion the government for a redress of grievances." Stanford
-- from the First Amendment to the US ConsXXXution University
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| Re: trek [message #301016 ] |
Di, 18 Juli 2006 11:15 |
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On 2006-07-18, Joseph Michael Bay <jmbay [at] Stanford.EDU> wrote:
> asw [at] TheWorld.com (plorkwort) writes:
>
>>In article <1152929639.548282.198800 [at] m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
>>Talysman the Ur-Beatle <talysman [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>>Oh, and in case anyone is curious, D&D didn't make up "orichalcum",
>>>either. They did make up "mithril", however.
>
>>And my office is full of orpiment! Or at least it will be if I don't get
>>all that realgar into airtight lightsafe containers.
>
> Realgar shouldn't photodecay into orpiment, but into pararealgar (AsS).
But how do we synthesize kibonia?
--
Vielen Dank
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| Re: trek [message #301018 ] |
Di, 18 Juli 2006 18:45 |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:33:25 -0400, Marc Goodman wrote:
>Chris McGonnell wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:22:33 -0400, Glenn Knickerbocker wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 03:08:32 +0000 (UTC), plorkwort wrote:
>>>
>>>>And my office is full of orpiment!
>>>
>>>Forgetting where I had seen that word recently, my first thought was to
>>>search news stories. I came up with one from 1250 A.D.
>>
>>
>> "Trug" was a new old word I read in "The Lighthouse" last night.
>> Damned P.D. James and her thesaurus.
>
>Read Gene Wolfe's "Book of the New Sun" quadrilogy/pentology sometime.
> From Chapter I and II of Shadow of the Torturer:
>Barbican, gallipots, mystes, badelaire, dholes, amschaspand, arctother,
>matachin, exultant, cacogen, wildgrave, burgess, nenuphars, khan.
Read that years ago, and the dictionary was helpful at times, yes. I
did know what a lictor was and why he needed a sword.
--
Chris McG.
Harming humanity since 1951.
"My dog ate my gratitude journal." -- Paula
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| Re: trek [message #301019 ] |
Di, 18 Juli 2006 19:18 |
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:45:52 -0400, Chris McGonnell
<smeagol [at] NOkey-net.net> wrote:
> I
>did know what a lictor was and why he needed a sword.
Because he 'ardly knew 'er?
--
"Danked," the past participle of "dank", is used to refer to someone
who replies to his own post on an online forum posing as another person
(see "Internet sock puppet") but forgetting to change his username . . . .
This was an act of stupidity meriting a name of its own, and because the hapless
contributor's username was Danks, the term "dank" or "danked" emerged.
-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danked
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| Re: trek [message #301020 ] |
Di, 18 Juli 2006 22:50 |
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Adam Funk <a24061 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>Michael Bay <jmbay [at] Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>> asw [at] TheWorld.com (plorkwort) writes:
>>>And my office is full of orpiment! Or at least it will be if I don't get
>>>all that realgar into airtight lightsafe containers.
>>
>> Realgar shouldn't photodecay into orpiment, but into pararealgar (AsS).
>
>But how do we synthesize kibonia?
I think we have to move to soviet roosia, where kibonia synthesizes YOU?
Dave "if Kibo has become nonexistent again, does that mean we have to reinvent
him?" DeLaney
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\/David DeLaney posting from dbd [at] vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
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| Re: trek [message #301025 ] |
Mi, 19 Juli 2006 16:01 |
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jmbay [at] Stanford.EDU (Joseph Michael Bay) writes:
> Realgar shouldn't photodecay into orpiment, but into pararealgar (AsS).
>
>
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> acetobacter light budget
> Real --------------> realgar -------------> pararealgar ------> PROFIT
IFYDFY
--
- Doctroid Doctroid Holmes <http://www.richholmes.net/doctroid/>
Ancient use of incendiary pigs as an anti-elephant measure is
disqualified on grounds of pigs not being cows, even when on fire.
-- John D Salt
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| Re: trek [message #301026 ] |
Mi, 19 Juli 2006 16:06 |
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dbd [at] gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) writes:
> Dave "if Kibo has become nonexistent again, does that mean we have to reinvent
> him again?" DeLaney
: (IFYQFY). Yes, and let's get it right this time. That's the trouble
with worshiping a wiki god; bozos come along and replace his
hypothalmus with "MEGAN ODONOHUE GIVES BLOW JOBS" and pretty soon he's
got orange hair and a whip. I say we revert to pre-Neptune and try
again from there. -- ~~~~
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- Doctroid Doctroid Holmes <http://www.richholmes.net/doctroid/>
Ancient use of incendiary pigs as an anti-elephant measure is
disqualified on grounds of pigs not being cows, even when on fire.
-- John D Salt
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| Re: trek [message #301027 ] |
Mi, 19 Juli 2006 16:20 |
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"Rich Holmes" <rsholmes+usenet [at] mailbox.syr.edu> wrote
>> Dave "if Kibo has become nonexistent again, does that mean we have to
>> reinvent
>> him again?" DeLaney
>
> : (IFYQFY). Yes, and let's get it right this time. That's the trouble
> with worshiping a wiki god; bozos come along and replace his
> hypothalmus with "MEGAN ODONOHUE GIVES BLOW JOBS" and pretty soon he's
> got orange hair and a whip. I say we revert to pre-Neptune and try
> again from there. -- ~~~~
If I'm dealt pocket jacks or better, I have a tendency to
go all in and get it over with. It makes the middle pairs
that much stronger when I'm short stacked.
--oTTo--
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