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Science Fiction » alt.startrek » Dr Who newbie needs help
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #203976 ] Do, 19 Januar 2006 23:54
Neil Nadelman  
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:40:14 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson [at] NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:02:45 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>> I'm downloading all 6 gigs of 2005 as we speak! Thanks...
>
>And it's fantastic, trust me. I had really grown to dislike Dr. Who
>after all the years since Tom Baker and Peter Davison, I expected to
>hate the new one too and after watching the first episode, I really
>hadn't changed my mind. But by the time we got to the third episode,
>I was completely hooked and by the end of the season, all I wanted was
>more.

I was majorly into Who back in high school (To the point that
my friends and I made fan videos and such, which was kind of
impressive back in 1987), but the Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy
years and the TV movie really killed my interest in it. I approached
the new series with a lot of interest mixed with nostalgia, but grew
to really love it as the weeks passed. I used to describe myself as a
"recovering Doctor Who fan," but I think the truth is that I was a Who
fan who desperately wanted GOOD Doctor Who again.

I'm really happy the show is back and popular again. It was
as if the UK viewing public remembered all at once just how much they
desperately missed having the Doctor around.
-----------------------------------------------------
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-----------------------------------------------------
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Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204005 ] Fr, 20 Januar 2006 08:16
Glassman  
"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:43cebdfa [at] news.bnb-lp.com...
> Glassman wrote:
> > I'm downloading all 6 gigs of 2005 as we speak! Thanks...
>
> The first episode is a little silly, so don't get turned off by it. It
> was fun silly, though.
>
> Yousuf Khan

Do they need to be watched in order? What is the "New Dimension
Special"... any reason that the download has 2 copies of ep 5.... "World
War 3"? Thanks!


--
"Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY"
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204012 ] Fr, 20 Januar 2006 18:09
Neil Nadelman  
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:16:25 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
wrote:

> Do they need to be watched in order?

Yes, definitely. The season has a strong story arc that would
make no sense seen out of order.

>What is the "New Dimension Special"...

I think that was a pre-premiere documentary.

>any reason that the download has 2 copies of ep 5.... "World
>War 3"? Thanks!

Um, no. None that I can think of, anyway. The actual episode
titles (in order) are as follow:

1.) Rose
2.) The End of the World
3.) The Unquiet Dead
4.) Aliens of London
5.) World War Three
6.) DALEK
7.) The Long Game
8.) Father's Day
9.) The Empty Child
10.) The Doctor Dances
11.) Boom Town
12.) Bad Wolf
13.) The Parting of the Ways

What else are you downloading, aside form the New Dimension
Special?
-----------------------------------------------------
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-----------------------------------------------------
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for I have already survived Theta-G!

Current favorite spam subject line:
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Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204015 ] Fr, 20 Januar 2006 18:04
William George Fergus  
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:16:25 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote:
>"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:43cebdfa [at] news.bnb-lp.com...
>> Glassman wrote:
>> > I'm downloading all 6 gigs of 2005 as we speak! Thanks...
>>
>> The first episode is a little silly, so don't get turned off by it. It
>> was fun silly, though.
>>
>> Yousuf Khan
>
> Do they need to be watched in order?

Pretty much, yes. There are 3 2-part stories, so of course you would
want those in order. Also, some events in later episodes are built on
events in earlier episodes.


>What is the "New Dimension
>Special"... any reason that the download has 2 copies of ep 5.... "World
>War 3"? Thanks!

BBC did a half-hour companion series to Dr. Who last season, called Dr.
Who Confidential (Dr. Who ran on BBC2 on Saturday evening, and Dr. Who
Confidential ran on BBC3 immediately after it, except for "A New
Dimension" , which ran on BBC2 before the first ep as a special.

If you downloaded "A New Dimension", you should watch it before watching
the first episode, it is a retrospective of the history of the Dr. Who
series, and stars (among others) Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker,
and Sylvester McCoy (all the living previous Doctors except Paul McGann,
who is shown in clips), as well as Christopher Eccleston and Billie Piper
(the Doctor and Companion for this season). It was also narrated by
David Tennant, who will play the 10th Doctor in the coming season.

The 1st (or 27th) season
Except for the two specials, the Doctor Who Confidential companion
episode should be watched after the Doctor Who episode, since it contains
spoilers for the episode. The final special is a 45 minute recap, put
together from clips from the preceding Dr. Who Confidential eps.

Doctor Who Doctor Who Confidential
A New Dimension (special)

Rose Bringing Back the Doctor
The End of the World The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
The Unquiet Dead Tardis Tales
Aliens of London (Pt1) I Get A Side-Kick Out of You
World War III (Pt2) Why On Earth?
Dalek Dalek
The Long Game The Dark Side
Father's Day Time Trouble
The Empty Child (Pt1) Special Effects
The Doctor Dances (Pt2) Weird Science
Boom Town The World of Who
Bad Wolf (Pt1) Unsung Heroes and Violent Death
The Parting of the Ways (Pt2) The Last Battle

The Ultimate Guide (special)


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Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204016 ] Fr, 20 Januar 2006 21:04
Benjamin Pavsner  
At one time, the US had one or two fairly daring writers who could pull off
a fairly decent adaptation of UK hits (Norman Lear pulled it off with All In
the Family. Also, Sanford and Son was a better than average adaptation, but
that also had Redd Foxx to work off of. Unfortunately, as time progressed,
the well kind of went dry (I seem to remember CBS trying to pull off an
AbFab remake to no avail).
"Ryan Case" <jcasenomeatbytproducts [at] wrv.com> wrote in message
news:11sq5ptsvjtkbf2 [at] corp.supernews.com...
> David Chapman wrote:
>
> > From the Collected Witterings of Neil Nadelman, volume 23:
> >
> >
> >>His introduction also gave rise to the only funny joke in that
> >>entire benighted pilot episode.
> >
> >
> > Only funny *original* joke. I saw that pilot too; it lifts a great deal
of
> > the script from the equivalent UK ep.
> >
>
>
> I am quite glad that I didn't see it. We have a few truly funny shows
> here, like Scrubs and the sort. But we shouldn't try to do things like
> Coupling and Red Dwarf. Have to say that seeing the American Pilot might
> has ruined the original for me, and I LOVE the original.
>
> Ryan
>
> --
> Most people probably look better with their clothes on.
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204018 ] Sa, 21 Januar 2006 00:42
Glassman  
"Neil Nadelman" <arvy [at] navzr-genafyngbe.pbz (ROT13)> wrote in message
news:7262t1t89rdrp4llcrblbsku01rqd0jm1u [at] 4ax.com...
> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:16:25 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Do they need to be watched in order?
>
> Yes, definitely. The season has a strong story arc that would
> make no sense seen out of order.
>
> >What is the "New Dimension Special"...
>
> I think that was a pre-premiere documentary.
>
> >any reason that the download has 2 copies of ep 5.... "World
> >War 3"? Thanks!
>
> Um, no. None that I can think of, anyway. The actual episode
> titles (in order) are as follow:
>
> 1.) Rose
> 2.) The End of the World
> 3.) The Unquiet Dead
> 4.) Aliens of London
> 5.) World War Three
> 6.) DALEK
> 7.) The Long Game
> 8.) Father's Day
> 9.) The Empty Child
> 10.) The Doctor Dances
> 11.) Boom Town
> 12.) Bad Wolf
> 13.) The Parting of the Ways
>
> What else are you downloading, aside form the New Dimension
> Special?
> -----------------------------------------------------

I now have all the eps listed, plus New Dimension. I'm excited to get
started, is there any other shows I should see first?


--
"Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY"
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204019 ] Sa, 21 Januar 2006 01:24
Anybody  
In article <xzeAf.1231$e9.954 [at] fe12.lga>, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
wrote:

> "Neil Nadelman" <arvy [at] navzr-genafyngbe.pbz (ROT13)> wrote in message
> news:7262t1t89rdrp4llcrblbsku01rqd0jm1u [at] 4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:16:25 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Do they need to be watched in order?
> >
> > Yes, definitely. The season has a strong story arc that would
> > make no sense seen out of order.
> >
> > >What is the "New Dimension Special"...
> >
> > I think that was a pre-premiere documentary.
> >
> > >any reason that the download has 2 copies of ep 5.... "World
> > >War 3"? Thanks!
> >
> > Um, no. None that I can think of, anyway. The actual episode
> > titles (in order) are as follow:
> >
> > 1.) Rose
> > 2.) The End of the World
> > 3.) The Unquiet Dead
> > 4.) Aliens of London
> > 5.) World War Three
> > 6.) DALEK
> > 7.) The Long Game
> > 8.) Father's Day
> > 9.) The Empty Child
> > 10.) The Doctor Dances
> > 11.) Boom Town
> > 12.) Bad Wolf
> > 13.) The Parting of the Ways
> >
> > What else are you downloading, aside form the New Dimension
> > Special?
> > -----------------------------------------------------
>
> I now have all the eps listed, plus New Dimension. I'm excited to get
> started, is there any other shows I should see first?

There's *ALL* the episodes from the older shows, plus the movies, plus
all the novels, plus the webisodes (animated episodes on the BBC
website), plus the computer game, plus ...

Only then will you be a true Doctor Who fan. ;-)
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204020 ] Sa, 21 Januar 2006 01:48
David Chapman  
From the Collected Witterings of Glassman, volume 23:

> I now have all the eps listed, plus New Dimension. I'm excited to get
> started, is there any other shows I should see first?

No, but don't forget to grab 28X00 The Christmas Invasion.

--
"My son is not a terrorist - he is a junior IT support officer."
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204030 ] Sa, 21 Januar 2006 10:08
cavalier  
American TV butchered the best situation comedy ever made: Fawlty
Towers. Miserable. I'd rather the networks just rerun the British
version.

Did you ever hear of the three Fawlty Towers remakes in the US? OMG

Snavely (aka Chateau Snavely), with Harvey Korman, in 1978.
Amanda's, with Bea Arthur in 1983.
Payne, with John Larroquette in 1999.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/f/fawltytowers_77 72600.shtml



On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:04:19 -0500, <pavsnerp [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

>At one time, the US had one or two fairly daring writers who could pull off
>a fairly decent adaptation of UK hits (Norman Lear pulled it off with All In
>the Family. Also, Sanford and Son was a better than average adaptation, but
>that also had Redd Foxx to work off of. Unfortunately, as time progressed,
>the well kind of went dry (I seem to remember CBS trying to pull off an
>AbFab remake to no avail).
>"Ryan Case" <jcasenomeatbytproducts [at] wrv.com> wrote in message
>news:11sq5ptsvjtkbf2 [at] corp.supernews.com...
>> David Chapman wrote:
>>
>> > From the Collected Witterings of Neil Nadelman, volume 23:
>> >
>> >
>> >>His introduction also gave rise to the only funny joke in that
>> >>entire benighted pilot episode.
>> >
>> >
>> > Only funny *original* joke. I saw that pilot too; it lifts a great deal
>of
>> > the script from the equivalent UK ep.
>> >
>>
>>
>> I am quite glad that I didn't see it. We have a few truly funny shows
>> here, like Scrubs and the sort. But we shouldn't try to do things like
>> Coupling and Red Dwarf. Have to say that seeing the American Pilot might
>> has ruined the original for me, and I LOVE the original.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> --
>> Most people probably look better with their clothes on.
>
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204042 ] Sa, 21 Januar 2006 16:50
fiziko  
Glassman wrote:

> Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent but
> have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the
> best flavor. Any advice?

I've only seen the first four episodes of the original series, but the 2005
series that will be on region 1 DVD in March (Canadian release) was easy to
jump into. No prior knowledge is needed.

Blaine
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204064 ] So, 22 Januar 2006 17:41
Glassman  
<cavalier [at] sunfire.nul> wrote in message
news:2ht3t19oosf1n0f56nat5uhs3eo8dtdpqp [at] 4ax.com...
> American TV butchered the best situation comedy ever made: Fawlty
> Towers. Miserable. I'd rather the networks just rerun the British
> version.
>


How was it butchered? I was shown in it's original form.

--
"Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY"
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204066 ] So, 22 Januar 2006 19:30
Invid Fan  
In article <MAOAf.29$MO4.25 [at] fe08.lga>, Glassman <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
wrote:

> <cavalier [at] sunfire.nul> wrote in message
> news:2ht3t19oosf1n0f56nat5uhs3eo8dtdpqp [at] 4ax.com...
> > American TV butchered the best situation comedy ever made: Fawlty
> > Towers. Miserable. I'd rather the networks just rerun the British
> > version.
> >
>
>
> How was it butchered? I was shown in it's original form.

They tried a remake, with Cleese in a secondary roll.

--
Chris Mack "Refugee, total shit. That's how I've always seen us.
'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between us."
-'Deal/No Deal', CHESS
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204078 ] Mo, 23 Januar 2006 10:47
cavalier  
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:41:20 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
wrote:

>
><cavalier [at] sunfire.nul> wrote in message
>news:2ht3t19oosf1n0f56nat5uhs3eo8dtdpqp [at] 4ax.com...
>> American TV butchered the best situation comedy ever made: Fawlty
>> Towers. Miserable. I'd rather the networks just rerun the British
>> version.
>>
>
>
> How

Now
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204085 ] Mo, 23 Januar 2006 20:06
ANIM8Rfsk  
in article 3h99t1l6jh30bjb5hndj42i6rvo8arastr [at] 4ax.com, cavalier [at] sunfire.nul
at cavalier [at] sunfire.nul wrote on 1/23/06 2:47 AM:

> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:41:20 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> <cavalier [at] sunfire.nul> wrote in message
>> news:2ht3t19oosf1n0f56nat5uhs3eo8dtdpqp [at] 4ax.com...
>>> American TV butchered the best situation comedy ever made: Fawlty
>>> Towers. Miserable. I'd rather the networks just rerun the British
>>> version.
>>>
>>
>>
>> How
>
> Now

Brown
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204086 ] Mo, 23 Januar 2006 20:19
Brian Henderson  
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:48:56 -0000, "David Chapman"
<jedit_ojanen8 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

>From the Collected Witterings of Glassman, volume 23:
>
>> I now have all the eps listed, plus New Dimension. I'm excited to get
>> started, is there any other shows I should see first?
>
>No, but don't forget to grab 28X00 The Christmas Invasion.

Which is really an introduction to the next season and the new Doctor,
it doesn't have much to do with the last season's continuity.
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204087 ] Mo, 23 Januar 2006 20:56
Anybody  
In article <BFFA7755.677DF%ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net>, ANIM8Rfsk
<ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net> wrote:

> in article 3h99t1l6jh30bjb5hndj42i6rvo8arastr [at] 4ax.com, cavalier [at] sunfire.nul
> at cavalier [at] sunfire.nul wrote on 1/23/06 2:47 AM:
>
> > On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:41:20 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> <cavalier [at] sunfire.nul> wrote in message
> >> news:2ht3t19oosf1n0f56nat5uhs3eo8dtdpqp [at] 4ax.com...
> >>> American TV butchered the best situation comedy ever made: Fawlty
> >>> Towers. Miserable. I'd rather the networks just rerun the British
> >>> version.
> >>
> >> How
> >
> > Now
>
> Brown

VW Beetle. ;-)
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #204098 ] Di, 24 Januar 2006 01:46
David Chapman  
From the Collected Witterings of Brian Henderson, volume 23:
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:48:56 -0000, "David Chapman"
> <jedit_ojanen8 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

>> No, but don't forget to grab 28X00 The Christmas Invasion.
>
> Which is really an introduction to the next season and the new Doctor,
> it doesn't have much to do with the last season's continuity.

But it might have a lot to do with the next season's continuity.

--
"My son is not a terrorist - he is a junior IT support officer."
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #212925 ] Di, 31 Januar 2006 23:10
The Hermit  
Where do I go to d/l them?

William George Ferguson <wmgfrgsn [at] newsguy.com> wrote in
news:no32t1h99onl6avfkld8bdq6jbucqbgkmt [at] 4ax.com:

> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:16:25 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
wrote:
>>"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:43cebdfa [at] news.bnb-lp.com...
>>> Glassman wrote:
>>> > I'm downloading all 6 gigs of 2005 as we speak! Thanks...
>>>
>>> The first episode is a little silly, so don't get turned off by it.
It
>>> was fun silly, though.
>>>
>>> Yousuf Khan
>>
>> Do they need to be watched in order?
>
> Pretty much, yes. There are 3 2-part stories, so of course you would
> want those in order. Also, some events in later episodes are built on
> events in earlier episodes.
>
>
>>What is the "New Dimension
>>Special"... any reason that the download has 2 copies of ep 5....
"World
>>War 3"? Thanks!
>
> BBC did a half-hour companion series to Dr. Who last season, called Dr.
> Who Confidential (Dr. Who ran on BBC2 on Saturday evening, and Dr. Who
> Confidential ran on BBC3 immediately after it, except for "A New
> Dimension" , which ran on BBC2 before the first ep as a special.
>
> If you downloaded "A New Dimension", you should watch it before
watching
> the first episode, it is a retrospective of the history of the Dr. Who
> series, and stars (among others) Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker,
> and Sylvester McCoy (all the living previous Doctors except Paul
McGann,
> who is shown in clips), as well as Christopher Eccleston and Billie
Piper
> (the Doctor and Companion for this season). It was also narrated by
> David Tennant, who will play the 10th Doctor in the coming season.
>
> The 1st (or 27th) season
> Except for the two specials, the Doctor Who Confidential companion
> episode should be watched after the Doctor Who episode, since it
contains
> spoilers for the episode. The final special is a 45 minute recap, put
> together from clips from the preceding Dr. Who Confidential eps.
>
> Doctor Who Doctor Who Confidential
> A New Dimension (special)
>
> Rose Bringing Back the Doctor
> The End of the World The Good, The Bad, and The
Ugly
> The Unquiet Dead Tardis Tales
> Aliens of London (Pt1) I Get A Side-Kick Out of You
> World War III (Pt2) Why On Earth?
> Dalek Dalek
> The Long Game The Dark Side
> Father's Day Time Trouble
> The Empty Child (Pt1) Special Effects
> The Doctor Dances (Pt2) Weird Science
> Boom Town The World of Who
> Bad Wolf (Pt1) Unsung Heroes and Violent
Death
> The Parting of the Ways (Pt2) The Last Battle
>
> The Ultimate Guide (special)
>
>
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #212932 ] Mi, 01 Februar 2006 06:57
Neil Nadelman  
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:10:05 GMT, The Hermit
<OldWeridGuy [at] mountaintop.com> wrote:

>Where do I go to d/l them?

Pretty much any decent Bit Torrent site will have them,
although you can just wait till March. Sci-Fi Channel will be running
the new Who on Fridays at 9 PM.
-----------------------------------------------------
Neil Nadelman arvy [at] navzr-genafyngbe.pbz (ROT13)
-----------------------------------------------------
I have no fears in life,
for I have already survived Theta-G!

Current favorite spam subject line:
Be vancouver the imaginate!
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #212935 ] Mi, 01 Februar 2006 10:04
al019  
Anybody (anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com) wrote:
: In article <dqdd7a$rvk$16 [at] News.Dal.Ca>, al019 [at] chebucto.ns.ca (Brad
: Filippone) wrote:

: > Bo Raxo (invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com) wrote:
: >
: > : "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
: > : news:xFHxf.452$r_4.230 [at] fe09.lga...
: > : > No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We religiously watch
: > : > every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, even the
: > : > bad Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even Invasion,
: > : > Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's horror film
: > : > ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of Doctor
: > : Who!
: > : > I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these NG's, I'm
: > : > ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit Torrent
: > : but
: > : > have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us the
: > : best
: > : > flavor. Any advice?
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > : To completely not answer your question, if you're a sci-fi fan and you ever
: > : get the chance, check out another Brit series called Blake's 7. Really
: > : good, great actors, gritty characters, good episode stories and an
: > : interesting overall arc to things over the course of each season. And the
: > : series finale will just floor you.
: >
: > Yes, with how bad it is.

: Most Americans simply don't "get" Brisith TV shows - that's why the
: movie versions they make are so abysmal: Dr Who, Thunderbirds, ...

If you're referring to me, I'm actually Canadian.

As for the Doctor Who TV movie, that was actually a joint U.S./British
production.

Brad
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #212936 ] Mi, 01 Februar 2006 10:07
al019  
Paul Vader (pv+usenet [at] pobox.com) wrote:
: "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> writes:
: >Oh here it comes "Anybody's" usual tirade, it's new so it can't be good
: >*even though* it's a new season after a few year hiatus. The new Dr Who is
: >as good as any previous, it's still the good Doctor as much as any of it's
: >predecessors.

: I would say it's considerably BETTER than the last few seasons of the
: orignal Who series. *

There was a slight decline in the quality of the writing during the
"reign" of the sixth and seventh Doctors, yet there are still some gems in
those years, like "The Mark of the Rani" "Remembrance of the Daleks" and
"The Curse of Fenric"

Brad
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #212955 ] Mi, 01 Februar 2006 20:18
William George Fergus  
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:10:05 GMT, The Hermit
<OldWeridGuy [at] mountaintop.com> wrote:

[re: the Eccleston Dr. Who episodes and/or the Dr. Who Confidential
companion series]

>Where do I go to d/l them?

As others mention, you should be able to download them with the various
peer to peer (P2P) groups, like the torrent sites. If you do Usenet
binary groups, go to alt.binaries.drwho and download away.

You should look through a few days worth of posts first (warning, this is
a very active binary group, with posts covering the full 3 decades of Dr.
Who). If they aren't on your newsserver, you can make a polite request
for them to the newsgroup.

If you see the 'Children In Need Special' and/or 'The Christmas Invasion'
(may also be called 'the Christmas special'), you don't want to watch
these until after you've watched the Eccleston season, and you'll want to
watch the Children In Need special before The Christmas Invasion. It's a
5 minute scene that bridges between "Parting of the Ways" and "The
Christmas Invasion". It was originally shown last November on the
Children In Need fundraiser as a special.

--
.... and my sister is a vampire slayer, her best friend is a witch who
went bonkers and tried to destroy the world, um, I actually used to be
a little ball of energy until about two years ago when some monks
changed the past and made me Buffy's sister and for some reason, a big
klepto. My best friends are Leticia Jones, who moved to San Diego
because this town is evil, and a floppy eared demon named Clem.
(Dawn's fantasy of her intro speech in "Lessons", from the shooting script)
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #212966 ] Do, 02 Februar 2006 02:37
Kweeg  
"Brad Filippone" <al019 [at] chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in message
news:drptj4$ba1$6 [at] News.Dal.Ca...
> Anybody (anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com) wrote:
> : In article <dqdd7a$rvk$16 [at] News.Dal.Ca>, al019 [at] chebucto.ns.ca (Brad
> : Filippone) wrote:
>
> : > Bo Raxo (invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com) wrote:
> : >
> : > : "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:xFHxf.452$r_4.230 [at] fe09.lga...
> : > : > No one's a bigger sci-fi freak then my wife and I. We
religiously watch
> : > : > every Trek incarnation in reruns, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits,
even the
> : > : > bad Sci-fi channel Sat night movies, SG-1, SG Atlantis, BSG, even
Invasion,
> : > : > Lost, Surface, and Supernatural. I must have every B, 1950's
horror film
> : > : > ever made. Here's the rub. Niether of us has ever seen one ep of
Doctor
> : > : Who!
> : > : > I can't explain it, but after reading so much about it on these
NG's, I'm
> : > : > ready to take a stab. Where to begin? I can get most eps via Bit
Torrent
> : > : but
> : > : > have no idea which to start with? What years and eps will give us
the
> : > : best
> : > : > flavor. Any advice?
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > : To completely not answer your question, if you're a sci-fi fan and
you ever
> : > : get the chance, check out another Brit series called Blake's 7.
Really
> : > : good, great actors, gritty characters, good episode stories and an
> : > : interesting overall arc to things over the course of each season.
And the
> : > : series finale will just floor you.
> : >
> : > Yes, with how bad it is.
>
> : Most Americans simply don't "get" Brisith TV shows - that's why the
> : movie versions they make are so abysmal: Dr Who, Thunderbirds, ...
>
> If you're referring to me, I'm actually Canadian.
>
> As for the Doctor Who TV movie, that was actually a joint U.S./British
> production.

Filmed in Vancouver, BC....

--

Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #212970 ] Do, 02 Februar 2006 03:16
Invid Fan  
In article <drptp5$ba1$7 [at] News.Dal.Ca>, Brad Filippone
<al019 [at] chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:

> Paul Vader (pv+usenet [at] pobox.com) wrote:
> : "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> writes:
> : >Oh here it comes "Anybody's" usual tirade, it's new so it can't be good
> : >*even though* it's a new season after a few year hiatus. The new Dr Who is
> : >as good as any previous, it's still the good Doctor as much as any of it's
> : >predecessors.
>
> : I would say it's considerably BETTER than the last few seasons of the
> : orignal Who series. *
>
> There was a slight decline in the quality of the writing during the
> "reign" of the sixth and seventh Doctors, yet there are still some gems in
> those years, like "The Mark of the Rani" "Remembrance of the Daleks" and
> "The Curse of Fenric"
>
It was up and down, but apart from the first year of the 7th Doctor I
enjoyed most of the stories. Damn it, where's our Trial of a Timelord
box set?!?

--
Chris Mack "Refugee, total shit. That's how I've always seen us.
'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between us."
-'Deal/No Deal', CHESS
Re: Dr Who newbie needs help [message #217080 ] Sa, 11 Februar 2006 05:05
Richard Hudson  
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:10:05 GMT, The Hermit
<OldWeridGuy [at] mountaintop.com> wrote:

>
>> The 1st (or 27th) season
>> Except for the two specials, the Doctor Who Confidential companion
>> episode should be watched after the Doctor Who episode, since it
>contains
>> spoilers for the episode. The final special is a 45 minute recap, put
>> together from clips from the preceding Dr. Who Confidential eps.
>>
>> Doctor Who Doctor Who Confidential
>> A New Dimension (special)
>>
>> Rose Bringing Back the Doctor
>> The End of the World The Good, The Bad, and The
>Ugly
>> The Unquiet Dead Tardis Tales
>> Aliens of London (Pt1) I Get A Side-Kick Out of You
>> World War III (Pt2) Why On Earth?
>> Dalek Dalek
>> The Long Game The Dark Side
>> Father's Day Time Trouble
>> The Empty Child (Pt1) Special Effects
>> The Doctor Dances (Pt2) Weird Science
>> Boom Town The World of Who
>> Bad Wolf (Pt1) Unsung Heroes and Violent
>Death
>> The Parting of the Ways (Pt2) The Last Battle
>>
>> The Ultimate Guide (special)
>>
>>


Where can we download the Dr. Who Confidential eps?
Dr Who newbie needs a life! [message #228495 ] Mi, 08 März 2006 08:46
Eva  
Kweeg wrote:

Dr Who newbie needs a life!
Re: Dr Who newbie needs a life! [message #228500 ] Mi, 08 März 2006 14:35
videonovels  
Personality-wise, I liked ALL the doctors. Each was likeable in his
own way.

..

Story-wise, Doctors 1 & 2 & 3 (1960s & early 70s) are painful to
watch....
- lousy plots
- that are stretched to fill 6-8 hours of time, when they should be
only 1-2 hours
- watching wet paint dry would be more exciting
- and a good cure for insomnia

-----> Story-wise, I think the pinnacle of the Doctor Who program was
Doctors 4 & 5 (late 70s & early 80s). Good solid science fiction, with
good pacing, and interesting plots. I could rewatch Doctors 4 & 5
over-and-over again.

..

Doctors 6 & 7 devolve into stupidity. Doctor 6's first year is okay
(if you like dark, dark stories), but then the show was placed on
hiatus & when it came back, it appeared that all the intelligence was
stripped away..... leaving behind something resembling a children's
program (doctor 7 resembled a clown imho). A joke.

..

End of the Classic Series

..

REVIVAL:

And then there's Doctor 8 (the 90's Fox movie) which I thoroughly
enjoyed. Including numerous novels which are all considered official
history (per Graham Davies, producer).

And finally Doctor 9 (2005-6 series) which I thought was the best
storytelling to ever come out of the Doctor Who franchise. Nearly
every episode was a winner.

..
Re: Dr Who newbie needs a life! [message #228503 ] Mi, 08 März 2006 16:42
Patrick Joseph McNama  
<videonovels [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1141824956.249816.225690 [at] j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> Personality-wise, I liked ALL the doctors. Each was likeable in his
> own way.
>
> .
>
> Story-wise, Doctors 1 & 2 & 3 (1960s & early 70s) are painful to
> watch....
> - lousy plots
> - that are stretched to fill 6-8 hours of time, when they should be
> only 1-2 hours
> - watching wet paint dry would be more exciting
> - and a good cure for insomnia
>
They aren't so bad when you consider the storytelling of the period. Many
people were use to radio and reading. It was one of the first SF shows ever.
But a lot of old TV doesn't work today. Try watching some older Hitchcock
episodes (or anything from the 60s and 70s). The plots are often predictable
and the characters are one-dimensional. Sometimes that worked, but sometimes
it just made the show boring.
Re: Dr Who newbie needs a life! [message #228505 ] Mi, 08 März 2006 18:37
Chancellor_Goth  
"Patrick Joseph McNamara" <writerpatrick [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:UwDPf.2272$xM2.154777 [at] news20.bellglobal.com...
>
> <videonovels [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1141824956.249816.225690 [at] j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>> Personality-wise, I liked ALL the doctors. Each was likeable in his
>> own way.
>>
>> .
>>
>> Story-wise, Doctors 1 & 2 & 3 (1960s & early 70s) are painful to
>> watch....
>> - lousy plots
>> - that are stretched to fill 6-8 hours of time, when they should be
>> only 1-2 hours
>> - watching wet paint dry would be more exciting
>> - and a good cure for insomnia
>>
> They aren't so bad when you consider the storytelling of the period. Many
> people were use to radio and reading. It was one of the first SF shows
> ever. But a lot of old TV doesn't work today. Try watching some older
> Hitchcock episodes (or anything from the 60s and 70s). The plots are often
> predictable and the characters are one-dimensional. Sometimes that worked,
> but sometimes it just made the show boring.

Not everyone today suffers from ADHD, luckily, even if the poster
"videonovels [at] yahoo.com" does.
Re: Dr Who newbie needs a life! [message #228506 ] Mi, 08 März 2006 20:01
videonovels  
> "Patrick Joseph McNamara" <writerpatrick [at] yahoo.com>
> > <videonovels [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> Story-wise, Doctors 1 & 2 & 3 (1960s & early 70s) are painful...
> >> - lousy plots
> >> - that are stretched to fill 6-8 hours of time, when they should be
> >> only 1-2 hours - - a good cure for insomnia
> >>
>
> > They aren't so bad when you consider the storytelling of the period. Many
> > people were use to radio and reading. .........

..

Oh yes. I'm sure you're correct that back THEN in the 60's super-long
serials were sufficient for the british masses. But I am of the
opinion that a story should stand the test of time. If Bob Smith of
Londontown 1600 has become "lost" too history. Too bad. I guess his
stories were just not good enough to be remembered. (shrug)

In contrast, we still remember Shakespeare.

I recently watched The Old Outer Limits from the 1960's. Man was that
dull. Nearly every story was the same "aliens are invading" plot.
Yawn. No wonder so many science fiction fans of the time boycotted TV,
and stuck to mainly novels.

..


Chancellor_Goth wrote:
> Not everyone today suffers from ADHD, luckily, even if the poster
> "videonovels [at] yahoo.com" does.

..

Well I may suffer ADD, but at least I have manners. I don't go around
childishly insulting other people like you do. I suggest you go buy
the "Manners for Dummies" help book as soon as possible.

..
Re: Dr Who newbie needs a life! [message #228507 ] Mi, 08 März 2006 20:10
Jette Goldie  
<videonovels [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1141844498.906193.306360 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>> "Patrick Joseph McNamara" <writerpatrick [at] yahoo.com>
>> > <videonovels [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> Story-wise, Doctors 1 & 2 & 3 (1960s & early 70s) are painful...
>> >> - lousy plots
>> >> - that are stretched to fill 6-8 hours of time, when they should be
>> >> only 1-2 hours - - a good cure for insomnia
>> >>
>>
>> > They aren't so bad when you consider the storytelling of the period.
>> > Many
>> > people were use to radio and reading. .........
>
> .
>
> Oh yes. I'm sure you're correct that back THEN in the 60's super-long
> serials were sufficient for the british masses. But I am of the
> opinion that a story should stand the test of time. If Bob Smith of
> Londontown 1600 has become "lost" too history. Too bad. I guess his
> stories were just not good enough to be remembered. (shrug)

Yeah, and his correct spelling and grammar must be too much for
the modern idiot to comprehend too. (if you're any example)


--
Jette Goldie
jette [at] blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
("reply to" is spamblocked)
Re: Dr Who newbie needs a life! [message #228513 ] Do, 09 März 2006 12:24
videonovels  
Jette Goldie wrote:
> <videonovels [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > Oh yes. I'm sure you're correct that back THEN in the 60's super-long
> > serials were sufficient for the british masses. But I am of the
> > opinion that a story should stand the test of time. If Bob Smith of
> > Londontown 1600 has become "lost" too history. Too bad. I guess his
> > stories were just not good enough to be remembered. (shrug)
>
>
> Yeah, and his correct spelling and grammar must be too much for
> the modern idiot to comprehend too. (if you're any example)

..

At least I have the manners you lack. You need to learn to stop
insulting people.

..
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